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mayk

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2017, 02:06:55 PM »
Some relevant links from the interweb:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.sg/search/label/CNS%2FATM



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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2017, 03:59:28 PM »
The 13.25 billion peso question (which probably can be answered by r3mu511) is: Is there interoperability between the CNS/ATM civ radars and the upcoming Israel made air defense radars given that the CNS/ATM upgrade is supposedly capable of regional flight information interoperability?

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2017, 09:24:27 PM »
^sorry @mayk, I don't have any public source info on that... maybe other forumers better connected to CAAP can answer that question...

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2017, 10:01:47 PM »
^sorry @mayk, I don't have any public source info on that... maybe other forumers better connected to CAAP can answer that question...

I was not referring to the PH context, but in general is there interoperability between civil aviation CNS/ATM and military air defense radars? Mil planes do land and takeoff from civilian airports so they are sure to have civ interoperability.

And air defense controllers would have a better view of the airspace if they have access to the civ CNS/ATM.

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2017, 11:15:49 PM »
^ah ok, in that case, Thales does advertise that they can integrate their Topsky CNS/ATM into a military air defense system, so the potential is there...

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2017, 12:16:48 PM »
Manila Airport (NAIA) Radar

historical summary of manila radar center as published in CAAP website (emphasis mine):

http://ats.caap.gov.ph/index2/manilaapp_about.php



this radar center is located near the NAIA runway:



this site can be seen in google maps here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@14.507935,121.024154,400m/data=!3m1!1e3



from the above info we can infer that the Toshiba and NEC radars were likely installed in the radomes pictured above...

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as posted in an earlier post (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=712.msg2859#msg2859), back in 2010 five sets of STAR-2000 primary radars with co-mounted RSM-970-S secondary radars were ordered, one of these was installed in NAIA also near the runway and a little way off from the main radar center complex:





this newer Thales radar can be seen in google maps here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@14.504351,121.019606,400m/data=!3m1!1e3



installation of this Thales radar took place between July 2014 and August 2015, as can be seen by comparing the following two videos of landings at NAIA:

July 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVN_qstcNJQ

August 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtzRPa6lT28

as this Thales installation at NAIA includes a STAR-2000 primary (PSR) radar, it does not depend on aircraft having a transponder/beacon and thus is capable of detecting and tracking unknown/opfor targets... range for this PSR would be either 60, 80, or 100 nm depending on the transmitter power configuration acquired as can be seen in the product catalog:

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/star2000_datasheet.pdf

note that for civilian air traffic control (ATC) purposes, the co-mounted RSM-970-S secondary (SSR) radar gives this site a range of up to 256 nm on transponder/beacon equipped aircraft:

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/rsm970s_datasheet_0.pdf

At NAIA this week



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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2017, 05:47:25 AM »
New world-class air traffic system ready by June CAAP
The new Communications Navigation Surveillance/Air Traffic Management will enable airlines to meet departure and arrival schedules, and provide a safer, more efficient air traffic management flow in the country

Rappler.com
Published 1:00 PM, January 06, 2017
Updated 1:04 PM, January 06, 2017

https://www.rappler.com/business/157529-cns-atm-flight-management-caap

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The government agency announced on Friday, January 6, that the new Communications Navigation Surveillance/Air Traffic Management (CNS/ATM) system will be operational by the end of June.

The state-of-the-art computer and satellite-based system will put the Philippines on the same level with developed countries. The system features aircraft transponders that receive satellite signals and use transponder transmissions to determine the precise locations of aircraft in the sky, CAAP said in a statement.

The project was partly funded by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA). It includes the establishment of a central traffic control complex housed in the CAAP office in Manila, and 10 radar sites covering the entire Philippine Flight Information Region. It is now 92% complete, according to CAAP.

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Once the project is completed, the country would be able to monitor 80% of the Manila Flight Information Region as assigned to the Philippines by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

Due to this, CAAP said it would need the services of 500 air traffic controllers (ATC) over the next 5 years.

The long-delayed project was approved during the term of then President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo but was not implemented. In May 2011, the Commission on Audit (COA) suspended the advance payment of P58.92 million for the new CNS/ATM Systems Development Project Package-I.

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Re: Primary and Secondary Search Radars @ PH airports
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2017, 03:21:32 AM »
How the current air traffic control modernization program came about

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Sumitomo Corporation wins contract to deliver next-generation air traffic control systems to the Philippine Department of Transportation and Communication

http://www.sumitomocorp.co.jp/english/news/detail/id=25929

Sumitomo Corporation (President and CEO: Susumu Kato; Head Office: Chuo-ku, Tokyo) has formed a consortium with Thales Australia Ltd. (CEO: Chris Jenkins; Head Office: Melbourne; hereafter "Thales"), the Australian subsidiary of leading French electric company Thales SA, and has won a contract to deliver next-generation air traffic control systems--along with the associated construction--for the Philippine Department of Transportation and Communication (hereafter "DOTC").

The introduction of the next-generation air traffic control systems has been divided into the following two packages and will be implemented in a phased manner. The contract our consortium won relates to Package 1. The contract is worth about 9 billion yen, and the work is to be completed within 30 months; by May 2013. Using this opportunity, Sumitomo Corporation will aim to also win the contract for Package 2.

Package 1: Construction of a new air traffic control center building within the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in the Philippines, and delivery of air traffic control systems (including systems for communications, aeronautical information processing, satellite signal monitoring, and weather) at the new air traffic control center and major airports in the Philippines (about 25 sites).
Package 2: Installation of radars at major airports in the Philippines (about 10 sites), and delivery of communications equipment to connect the air traffic control center introduced in Package 1 with major local airports

The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has recommended a shift from traditional air traffic control systems, dependant on voice and radars, to a new system mainly based on digital data that uses geolocation satellites including GPS satellites. In the meantime, the Philippines has been faced with the issue of aging air traffic control systems despite being in an extremely important position connecting Japan, China and South Korea with the ASEAN nations. In the late 1990s, the Philippine Government decided to introduce a next-generation air traffic control system. The Japanese Government also considered this an ODA issue. In 2002, the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) concluded a contract to provide yen loans amounting to approximately 22.0 billion yen to the DOTC. The completion of a safe and advanced air traffic control system with the support of the Japanese Government, preparing for the forecast increase in demand for air travel, will have great significance in terms of safety and efficiency not only for the Philippines, but also for nations around the world, including Japan.

At present, demand for air traffic is increasing worldwide, and a further jump in demand is expected due to the rise of emerging nations and increasing populations. According to the Japan Aircraft Development Corporation, the current volume of air traffic is expected to double in the period between 2020 and 2025. Japan is no exception. To respond to this increasing demand, Japan has been working on increasing departure and arrival slots at the Narita Airport and just recently has completed the fourth runway at Tokyo's central Haneda Airport. This will increase the frequency of annual departures and arrivals to 300,000 to 400,000.

Partner Thales is the world's number one in Europe and Asia in delivery of air traffic control systems. In fact, about half the airplanes flying worldwide are controlled by Thales' air traffic control system. With this project, Sumitomo Corporation will actively enter the field of air traffic control systems development, partnering Thales and contributing to airline safety and efficiency across Asia.