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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2020, 01:37:37 PM »
Conditional acceptance is a common practice in complex projects when the issue at hand is not considered to be a deal breaker or severely impairs the usability of the product. (e.g the 1% of out 99% that is not done)

It allows a way out for both parties; the client gets to use the product as soon as possible while the supplier is given some additional time to remediate and is paid.

The key here is how much time is given for the supplier to remediate and whether the customer retains the rights to take further action if there is a non-delivery or fulfillment.

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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2020, 07:04:57 PM »
According to  Leo Madrid Almazan , A DOST balik scientist from his latest FB post:

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Seriously, the operating word is “conditionally accepted.” The USN has the same criteria if the systems operational and verification tests have some unacceptable issues! The USN will just accept it on the condition that issues shall and that is the operating word, SHALL (more legal), fix the issue or problem before the system is 100% accepted!

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the tests are all done! Just waiting for HHI to use an accepted Link-16 simulator tester so the US JITC can certify the Link-16 terminal aboard the frigates!

Turn-over is imminent  8)

Where did he said this?

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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2020, 06:16:04 PM »
According to  Leo Madrid Almazan , A DOST balik scientist from his latest FB post:

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Seriously, the operating word is “conditionally accepted.” The USN has the same criteria if the systems operational and verification tests have some unacceptable issues! The USN will just accept it on the condition that issues shall and that is the operating word, SHALL (more legal), fix the issue or problem before the system is 100% accepted!

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the tests are all done! Just waiting for HHI to use an accepted Link-16 simulator tester so the US JITC can certify the Link-16 terminal aboard the frigates!

Turn-over is imminent  8)

Where did he said this?

From one of the FB defense page  AFP Modernization and Global Defense News

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Bottom line right out of the Link 16 Program office and SPAWAR PMW-150 which I visted during my vacation in San Diego CA last March. Without the certification from the US DOD JITC, the HHI Link-16 will not be included in any US Link-16 network!!! The problem is that the ADSI Link -16 simulator used in the HHI Test is not in the US Link-16 Program Office certified Link 16 list!
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Also he mentioned about they (his team) are working with  our own version of CMS ,

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The HHI frigates are fitted with Link-K the Korean datalink system. So for now, the only platforms that has Link-K are the two frigates no one else! Our own PN tactical datalink will not be completed till the end of 2021! Wish my TDL development team good luck!

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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2021, 10:50:40 AM »
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1419195/ph-navy-gets-green-light-to-install-us-compatible-operating-technology-on-new-warships?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1618407199

This would refer to the hardware terminals (MIDS-LVT). The terminals themselves will need to interface with the CMS to transfer the track data. That the procurement has gone ahead would imply that US JITC has already certified or are close to certifying the CMS's ability to interface with the terminal.

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PH Navy gets green light to install US-compatible operating technology on new warships
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQINQUIRER.net / 09:25 PM April 14, 2021
MANILA, Philippines—The Department of National Defense has given the green light for the Philippine Navy to equip its new Rizal-class warships with Tactical Data Link 16, the standard military network being used by the United States and allies.

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana this week approved the acquisition decision memorandum for the Tactical Data Link 16 equipment and terminals, INQUIRER.net learned from a government source.

The system would likely be acquired from the United States in a government-to-government deal through the US’ foreign military sales program.

The Link 16 would allow monitoring of battle space operations, share information in real time and improve interoperability between allies and other Philippine military platforms with the same capacity.

There would be seamless real-time data swapping with allies or local platforms without the risks of getting hacked or being intercepted by hostile forces.

The Philippine government has recently completed the acquisition of two multi-role frigates worth P16 billion from South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI). The process to acquire the warships wasn’t smooth sailing, however.


The involvement of Malacanang, cited in some of the documents related to the frigate deal, drew national attention and even prompted the Senate and House of Representatives to conduct hearings.

The selection of the combat management system, described to be the brains of the warships, was one of the contentious issues of the acquisition process because of the Navy’s Link 16 compatibility requirement.

HHI promised in 2017 that Hanwha Systems’ Naval Shield ICMS would be compatible with Link 16 by 2019 or before the first frigate was delivered.

The compatibility requirement was not officially met upon the delivery of the first ship in 2020, but the South Korean Ministry of National Defense issued a guarantee to resolve it. HHI also said it will shoulder the Link 16 integration costs when the Navy acquires the equipment in the future.


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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2021, 11:12:18 PM »
DAPA was never going to it's part of the equation slip, and JUSMAG was inevitably going to get involved.