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Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« on: May 10, 2017, 10:55:18 PM »
horge discussed the possibility in the defunct forum.

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/986541

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MANILA, May 10 -- The Philippine Air Force (PAF) has allocated PHP14.3 million for the installation of multi-function display and spares needed for the maintenance of the navigation system of one of its three SIAI-Marchetti S-211 jet trainers.

This was bared by PAF bids and awards chief Brig. Gen. Nicolas Parilla in an bid bulletin posted at the Philippine Government Electronic Procurement System website.

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 04:53:39 AM »
Well, yes, back then, I was pointing to Esterline CMC's "cockpit 4000" upgrade package:
SparrowHawk HUD; UFCP and 3 x MFD (3"x5") for front and rear cockpits (the rear central
MFD can serve as HUD repeater); all driven by a duo of Esterline CMC FV-4000 computers,
which (naturally) interfaces with AHRS, INS, etc., to shunt digital mapping to an MFD. The
FV-4000 OS is ARINC-653 compatible, and supports ARINC-429 interfacing (in addition to
to other interface compatibilities, like 1553/1760, etc).

tl;dr Aermacchi used Esterline CMC's kit to turn an S-211 cockpit into an M-311 cockpit.


Old PAF S-211 panel (image: PUG)


Bottom line is that upgrading and sustaining the S-211 provides at least 3 BJT platforms,
in order to conserve FA-50 airframe/engine life for AJT duty --let the non fastjet-inclined
wash out on a cheaper platform like the S-211. Then there's the non-training mission of
FA-50 to consider, and the need to wisely-use its flight hours gains more importance.

I didn't keep up with the engine overhaul, ejection seat rocket replacement, and other
projects for PAF's venerable S-211 's, but I hope they were sufficient: it's been a decade
since a cockpit upgrade was being discussed on timawa, and even THEN, engine TBO
and overall TTAF were nagging concerns.



https://www.esterline.com/Portals/17/Documents/en-us/fv4000.pdf
« Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 08:36:50 AM by horge »

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 09:38:21 AM »
There were two Engine bids with an ABC of 25 million around 2015 with at least one and awarded in 2016. These were for 008 and another. No info if it's flying already. A third engine bid was awarded Sept 2016.

Latest engine bid has The last two engine bids (Sept 2016 & May 2017) have been adjusted to 30 million.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2017, 09:19:38 PM by Herbie »

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2017, 08:41:53 AM »
Latest engine bid has been adjusted to 30 million.

Herb, is that a re-bid, or is that for a third bird?

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2017, 09:32:49 PM »
Latest engine bid has been adjusted to 30 million.

Herb, is that a re-bid, or is that for a third bird?

I'm not sure, horge. I'll get back to you on this.

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2017, 08:33:50 PM »
Latest engine bid has been adjusted to 30 million.

Herb, is that a re-bid, or is that for a third bird?

horge, looks like it's for a fourth bird.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2017, 09:19:58 PM by Herbie »

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Re: Shades of the M311/345: MFD upgrades for the S-211?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 03:38:09 AM »
Great!
Thanks, Herb.