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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2018, 08:47:46 PM »
Its nice to see this evidences/references showing the effort of the current administration in continuing the show of ownership in these Islands we currently occupy in WPS even thought PRRD's soft stand against china is very obvious.

Ok lang sana to be friendly with the Dragon while PRRD is doing something from the background to make the AFP more stronger to deter any evaders, but looks like the President is only interested in internal defense instead of fully supporting the AFP wish list budget allocation for the H2 Territorial defense. Its really disappointing when palace allow the Dragon to official enter the Benham Rise for this research activities.

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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2018, 01:30:21 AM »
Its nice to see this evidences/references showing the effort of the current administration in continuing the show of ownership in these Islands we currently occupy in WPS even thought PRRD's soft stand against china is very obvious.

The reason for the “soft stance” is partly in your own statement below. It’s not about being soft. Its about playing along to achieve our medium and long term ends

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=750.0

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Ok lang sana to be friendly with the Dragon while PRRD is doing something from the background to make the AFP more stronger to deter any evaders, but looks like the President is only interested in internal defense instead of fully supporting the AFP wish list budget allocation for the H2 Territorial defense.

In a nutshell: we are in no shape to fight. The pace of the Mod Program is slow.

When evaluating what is currently happening in the DND front, here is an important distinction to make. When PNoy became President, he stopped all modernization projects, fired all the relevant experienced staff at the DND, allowed the PN Modernization office to implode, took his sweet time restarting the projects that were already underway. In classic Aquino fashion, he stopped projects to put his personal stamp on them. The delay in the restart was partly because he fired the people who knew how to make the projects work in the first place.

Contrast that with Duterte’s approach which was to maintain continuity where possible. That’s why the FA-50PH project completed without a hitch, the second SSV was delivered without cancellation. You can see evidence of this continuity in the various undersecretaties in different departments. As a consequence, more was actually done, modernization-wise, in the man’s first year than in PNoy’s 6. A lot of which is kept low-key because of the geopolitical conversation he wants to establish.

“Defense” also isn’t just limited to the military sphere. You also need economic defenses. Remember this?

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=305.0

The need to focus on this part of the problem is the rationale for this section of the forum

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?board=32.0

The ENTIRE country needs to be in a war footing. The DND-AFP cannot do it alone.

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Its really disappointing when palace allow the Dragon to official enter the Benham Rise for this research activities.

To “play the game” that the administration want, it can’t afford to be selective about what laws it applies. It’s part and parcel of the plan.

The requirements for exploration, among other things, requires Philippine representation.

The Chinese complied. The French did not.

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2929.0
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 02:50:38 AM by adroth »

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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2018, 12:56:00 AM »
COMMENTARY: 5 key facts on Benham Rise
Published January 31, 2018 7:36am
By RICHARD JAVAD HEYDARIAN

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/opinion/content/641614/5-key-facts-on-benham-rise/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=opinion

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But, what is really at stake in the Benham Rise? What is being fought over? Do we have any legitimate claim there? What should we do? The following are three key issues that we should keep in mind.

I. The Benham Rise is a volcanic ridge, which is part of our extended continental shelf in the Philippine Sea. Similar to an EEZ, we do have “sovereign rights” in the area -- rather than “sovereignty”, since we’re not talking about a full-fledged island or land formation, to which we can have title to claim – based on Article 77 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), which makes it clear that a coastal state has sovereign rights over its continental shelf for the purpose of "exploring it and exploiting its natural resources."

Crucially, those rights are “exclusive”, meaning other states can’t conduct any exploration and exploitation activities in Benham Rise without our express permission. As the UNCLOS puts it quite unambiguously, "The rights…are exclusive in the sense that if the coastal State does not explore the continental shelf or exploit its natural resources, no one may undertake these activities without the express consent of the coastal State."

II. We should keep in mind that per our constitution, Benham Rise --- as part of our continental shelf -- is part of our national territory. Based on international law, however, we don’t have full sovereignty over it. Yet, the distinction between “sovereign rights” and “sovereignty” is not a major categorical difference, but instead more of various manifestations of exclusive rights of a coastal state along a broad spectrum of jurisdictional regime. Yes, we can’t claim the whole water enveloped by the ridge in the area as our “territory” per se, as China does in adjacent waters, but we have full and exclusive sovereign rights -- based on a 2012 United Nations ruling, which is, in accordance to the Art. 76(8) of the UNCLOS, “final” and “binding” -- over resources in the area.

III. China is certainly correct to emphasize its right to freedom of navigation (FON) and overflight (FOO) in the area per UNCLOS, but that’s very rich coming from a country that rejects UNCLOS-based arbitration ruling as a “piece of trash paper” and claims the whole South China Sea as its own blue national soil, not to mention impedes FON and FOO through massive reclamation and militarization in Spratlys and Paracels, with Scarborough Shoal hanging in the balance.

IV. There are good reasons to be concerned about China’s intentions in the Benham Rise. Under the so-called “Island Chain Strategy,” Beijing views much of the Philippine Sea and Western Pacific as falling under its “second island chain”, a maritime buffer zone that it aims to dominate within the coming decade. In China’s view, domination of that area is key to keeping America’s naval prowess and footprint in adjacent waters in check.

V. Finally, this is precisely why it behooves the Duterte administration to be fully transparent in terms of its supposed MSR with China. The MSR is reportedly between Institute of Oceanology of Chinese Academy of Sciences (IOCAS) and the University of the Philippines Marine Science Institute (UP MSI). And it will focus on studying climate-driving ocean currents. This looks all fine and dandy, and we should indeed peruse mutually beneficial agreement with all countries, including China. But as the Russian proverb goes, “Trust, but Verify”.


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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2018, 11:54:11 AM »


http://www.philstar.com/news-feature/2018/02/02/1783535/china-exploration-benham-rise-trust-verify

-- Reagan Chess anyone?

“Trust, but verify.” This was one of the most poignant quotes from former American president Ronald Reagan, specifically in the context of geopolitics. Ironically, it was originally a Russian proverb, which the American president deftly deployed to deal with the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War.

Those were, however, more than just wise words, but instead a valuable strategic dictum, which served as the foundation of Reagan’s years-long chess-like negotiations with his Soviet counterpart Mikhail Gorbachev.

Reagan believed in cooperation and confidence-building measures with even the most bitter and existential rivals – but, crucially, from a position of strength and with eyes wide-open. In many ways, the Philippines faces a similar dilemma vis-à-vis China, particularly in the South China Sea and over the past year or so in the Benham Rise.

Most Filipinos are somehow familiar with the nature of the disputes in the South China Sea and more specifically, the West Philippine Sea, which pertains to areas that fall within our Exclusive Economic Zone in the area.

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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2018, 05:26:54 AM »
I can't but help but wonder if this statement is an over-correction in response to social media pressure.

A statement that anyone who qualifies can research at Benham Rise, subject to executive approval. Alejano's bringing the French into the discussion was actually misplaced. See below:

French research team denied access to Palawan


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Duterte stops foreign research over Benham Rise
ABS-CBN News
Posted at Feb 06 2018 09:40 AM

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/06/18/duterte-stops-foreign-research-over-benham-rise

MANILA - President Rodrigo Duterte ordered a stop to all research done by foreigners on Benham Rise and directed the Navy to "chase out" any vessel doing such, Agriculture Sec. Manny Piñol said Tuesday.

Quoting the President during a Cabinet meeting on Monday, Piñol said: "Let me be very clear about this: the Philippine Rise is ours and any insinuation that it is open to everybody should end with this declaration."

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Re: Benham Rise
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2018, 05:36:09 PM »
Duterte: Get permission to explore Philippine Rise or risk war with PH | Inquirer - February 28, 2018
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In a speech before soldiers in Marawi City, Duterte again asserted Manila’s sovereign rights over the resource-rich continental shelf.

“Dito sa eastern [part], yung Philippine Rise, atin talaga ‘yan,” he said, adding that a Philippine Marine battalion has already been deployed near the area.

The Armed Forces of the Philippines had earlier deployed a Philippine Marine battalion at Port Irene in Sta. Ana, Cagayan.

Duterte insisted that any foreign entity who wants to conduct scientific research in the Philippine Rise should first secure permission from the Philippine government.
“Sinabi ko talaga, walang mag-experiment na diyan hangga’t wala silang permiso galing sa akin,” he said.
Duterte said it would be for the AFP to recommend which foreign country may be given permission to conduct scientific research or even fishing activity in the underwater plateau off Aurora province.

“[T]he armed forces will have to recommend it. Otherwise no, I will not allow fishing, I will not, magka-giyera tayo,” he said.

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Palace: Duterte's war warning over Benham rise incursions not directed at China | ABS-CBN news - Mar 01 2018
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“The President's statement that incursions in the Philippine Rise would trigger war is not directed at China. China has already recognized that we have sovereign rights over the area,” Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque said in a statement.

Duterte on Wednesday asserted that the Philippines has exclusive rights to explore and exploit resources in the resource-rich underwater plateau located east of Isabela unless other countries get permission to conduct studies there.

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The President issued the same warning in a speech Thursday in Davao City.

“If anybody, any country for that matter, would say that they’d want to try and experiment there without our permission and worse, begin exploration talks here at Benham or Philippine Rise, I will not allow it, and it will mean war,” Duterte said in a mix of English and Filipino in front of police officers and troops.

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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2018, 05:46:51 PM »
Sovereign markers to float in PH Rise | Inquirer - February 27, 2018
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Floating “sovereign markers” will be placed in shallow portions of the Philippine Rise to assert the country’s sovereignty over the 13-million-hectare undersea plateau before Independence Day on June 12.

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Speaking to reporters after attending a Senate hearing on the Philippine Rise, Esperon said the markers costing P12 million each, or a total of P120 million, would be funded from an allocation in this year’s national budget.

Aside from the markers, the government also planned to put up an imagery satellite by the third quarter of the year, and send unmanned aerial vehicles over the area within the year, he added.
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Esperon, a former Armed Forces chief of staff, said three to four Navy vessels would be regularly deployed for patrol duties in the area.

Maritime scientific research remains suspended in the Philippine Rise, though Malacañang says four applications for research, including two from France, one from the United States and one from Russia, are pending.