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These large MRRVs do have helicopter hangars.

As a minimum, design load of helideck platform and hangar should be able to accommodate the maximum-take-off weight of the heavier helicopter listed below with a margin for heavy landing conditions/ factor of safety:

1) AIRBUS EC145 T2
4) BELL 412EP

Not just a hangar but also a naval gun. I hope it will not FFBNW again.

There is no opening hatch for Towed Array Sonar. I thought it was included in the specs.

Like this supposedly:

General Discussion / Re: SF-260s for PPE delivery to smaller airports
« on: April 04, 2020, 04:04:03 AM »
Two SF260FH aircraft of AETDC, Philippine Air Force ferried Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) from Mactan International Airport to Tacloban Airport today, 03 April 2020. The PPE will be used by the different frontliners in Tacloban. Likewise, specimens were also ferried from Tacloban to Mactan,Cebu.

Faster and more agile method of delivery

The same scenario in Chinese factory

"China’s factories work 24/7 to build medical ventilators for Milan, New York amid spreading global Covid-19 pandemic"

Certification of missile-capable PH Navy frigate’s ‘brains’ awaited / 02:47 PM March 10, 2020

MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine Navy’s first missile-capable frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), is a few steps away from delivery next month. Rear Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo, Navy chief, told reporters on Tuesday (March 10) that so far the warship has “all systems okay.”...

... Hanwha Systems had said in 2018 that TDL 16 compatibility with the CMS for the frigates would be in place by 2019. But in May that year, Hanwha said compatibility won’t happen until 2020 because of issues between the Korean armed forces and US requirements. It remains to be seen whether the CMS certification, which would come from the United States, would be obtained. ...

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I am just wondering if these systems such as "CIWS", "Towed Sonar Array" and "Air and Surface Search Radar" are implemented.

CIWS and TASS - no. FFBNW.

Surface radar used is the Hensoldt TRS-3D Baseline D.

I remember the issue regarding Data Link 16, is this data link format also implemented?. If CIWS and TASS are "Fitted For But Not With", I am hoping that Data Link 16 is included in the delivery.

I am just wondering if these systems such as "CIWS", "Towed Sonar Array" and "Air and Surface Search Radar" are implemented.

Even the termination of VFA, US still offering military equipment for our military.

February 11, 2020

The Armidale's issues

The original Timawa forum had extensive discussions about the Armidales and the challenges the Royal Australian Navy had with them. Sadly, the loss of the forum meant the loss of those discussions as well.

Here is a sampling.

Navy's asylum seeker patrol boats docked in Darwin after large cracks found
Updated 4 Mar 2014, 5:25pm

At least six patrol boats used by the Royal Australian Navy to intercept asylum seekers have been docked at the Darwin Naval Base amid concerns over structural cracks.

The large cracks were found near the engine room of one of the Armidale-class patrol boats about 10 days ago, according to a report in The Australian newspaper.

It is not the first time cracks have been found in the boats.

The Navy ordered a review of the Armidale class in August 2012 to assess whether the cracks were part of a fleet-wide design problem.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Scott Morrison says the "maintenance issues" are being addressed.

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The navy's patrol boat fleet is over worked and under maintained according to a new report
AS much as the Government likes to say it's tough on asylum seekers and people smugglers, the stress on our patrol boat fleet is starting to show.

By IAN McPHEDRAN National Defence Writer
News Corp Australia Network
JANUARY 3, 20149:22PM

EVERY time one of the navy's Armidale Class Patrol Boats departs from its Darwin base for a people smuggling patrol around Christmas Island the vessel and its crew face a 3000km journey simply to get to work.

That means 136 hours or 5.6 days of steaming time from HMAS Coonawarra before the small warship and her 25-strong crew even begin the arduous task of dealing with groups of desperate people who may have invested their life savings in a one-way ticket to Australia in a leaky Indonesian fishing boat.

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The stresses on the sailors involved are well documented, but the strains on the 57-metre aluminium alloy boats built by Austal at its Henderson yard near Perth in WA are growing increasingly obvious as each week passes under Operation Resolute.

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A secret report commissioned by Navy Chief Vice-Admiral Ray Griggs and seen by News Corp Australia, paints a gloomy picture of the impact that the high operational tempo and lack of maintenance are having on the boats.

The report by Army Major General Greg Melick focused on a near fatal gassing incident in August 2006 when four sailors were gassed by Hydrogen Sulphide, Chlorine and Carbon Monoxide generated by untreated sewage on board HMAS Maitland off Darwin.

A previous inquiry uncovered a litany of design flaws that were judged responsible for the incident that left one sailor, former Chief Petty Officer Kurt Mackenzie, near death and unable to ever work again.

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The 14 Armidale Class vessels have been dogged by structural problems, contaminated fuel and toxic fume risks due to design deficiencies in the $30 million boats.

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Following the 2006 gassing of four sailors in the reserve accommodation compartment (the Austere Compartment) at the stern of HMAS Maitland another sailor was gassed in the same area of another vessel in 2009. According to insiders the gassing risk still exists when the boats are cruising above 12 knots and under certain wind conditions hence the Austere compartment remains out of bounds.

The boats have also suffered from fuel contamination and structural cracking in the aluminium hull and their service lives have been cut short by the intense workload.

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Two sober conclusions can be drawn from this sorry tale.

1. Had the vessel been designed, built and operated correctly Kurt Mackenzie would still be a functioning member of the Royal Australian Navy.

2. Had the Armidale Class Patrol Boats been correctly maintained and operated within their limits they would not have needed replacing years ahead of schedule.

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Navy patrol boat repairs blow out by $45m

12:00AM JANUARY 6, 2016

The repair bill for the navy’s troubled patrol boats could blow out by up to $45 million as the damage to the overworked fleet becomes apparent from the ­asylum-seeker crisis of the Rudd-Gillard era.

The Australian understands that the start of a major refit for the 13 Armidale-class patrol boats has uncovered more damage than was expected, doubling the cost of repairing the first two boats and raising doubts over their durability.

The navy’s patrol boat fleet has suffered from a perfect storm of design faults, poor maintenance and the mission to intercept more than 50,000 asylum-seekers between 2008 and 2013, often in rough seas for which the boats were not designed. This has left the fleet in poor condition, with the government this year fast-tracking a replacement fleet of offshore patrol vessels, to be known as Corvettes, with construction to begin in 2018.

To keep the Armidale fleet afloat until the OPVs are ready in the early 2020s, the patrol boats are undergoing a progressive mid-life refit in Singapore rather than in Cairns or Darwin, where the navy has been disappointed in the quality and speed of repairs.

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To supplement the remaining Armidales while two boats are progressively in refit, the Australian Border Force has temporarily transferred two Cape-class offshore patrol vessels to the navy to enable it to meet its border security obligations.

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The Armidale-class fleet was built in Western Australia between 2004 and 2007 under order to civilian rather than military specifications, meaning they were ill-suited to operate regularly in high seas. This meant the aluminium alloy-hulled vessels were poorly equipped for the mission of intercepting and sometimes ­rescuing hundreds of asylum-seeker boats in rough weather as they made passage from Indonesia or Sri Lanka to Christmas Island between 2008 and 2013.

In March last year, a re-emergence of structural cracks in the boats caused almost half the fleet to be confined to port. This caused the navy to lose patience with the fleet and it asked the government to fast-track the construction of steel-hulled, rather than aluminium alloy-hulled boats, to make them more resistant to rough seas and poor weather. Although there have been turn-backs of asylum-seeker boats since 2013, the lull in boats seeking to make the crossing has allowed the navy to develop deep maintenance and refit programs to keep the Armidale-class fleet afloat.

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That's the reason why we don't want to use aluminum material for boat.

General Discussion / Re: Uparming the Parola class MRRVs
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:54:30 PM »
Seems that the placement of the mount isn't ideal with the port and startboard sides of the mount blocked by the fire monitors on both sides.

Not sure if PCG realized it. Water canon at the left and right blocks the sight of firing monitor. Also the railings of both sides

General Discussion / Re: Indian Coast Guard ship visits Philippines
« on: February 05, 2019, 10:13:21 PM »
Indian Coast Guard ship visits Philippines
Published: 01 February 2019

The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) welcomed the officers and men of the Indian Coast Guard Ship (ICGS) “Shaunak” as they officially visit the country today, February 01 at Pier 15, South Harbor, Port Area in Manila.

Shaunak is the fourth ship in the series of six 105-meter Samarth-class Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV).

The PCG rendered a company sized arrival honor to welcome the vessel’s Commanding Officer, Deputy Inspector General Bibhuti Ranjan and were received by Captain Genito B Basilio , Deputy Chief of Coast Guard Staff for Operations and Commander Angel Z Viliran, Director of Coast Guard Action Center.

Subsequently, Deputy Inspector General Ranjan paid a courtesy call to PCG Commandant, Admiral Elson E Hermogino followed by a Coast Guard briefing at the PCG national headquarters.

Several visits to PCG’s facilities such as the Coast Guard Action Center, National Coast Watch Center, Coast Guard K9 Force in Coast Guard Base Taguig and to one 44-meter multi-role response vessel are scheduled for the ICG delegation

A passage exercise (PASSEX) will also be held between the PCG and its Indian counterparts. Said exercise is done to practice communication, strengthen interoperability and enhance coordination.

The vessel has been designed and built by Goa Shipyard limited. Its features include 30mm Close Range Naval gun, integrated bridge system, integrated machinery control system, power management system and high power external firefighting system. The ship was designed to carry one twin engine light helicopter and five speed boats including two quick reaction inflatable boats for swift boarding operations, search and rescue, law enforcement and maritime patrol.

Well said.

No shortlist yet for submarine acquisition: AFP official

By Priam Nepomuceno,  October 31, 2018, 10:04 am

MANILA -- The government has yet to come up with a shortlist of countries where it can acquire its first-ever diesel electric submarines from.

This was confirmed by AFP deputy chief-of-staff for plans Major Gen. Restituto Padilla on Monday when asked where the country is planning to source the new naval vessel.

"Well it's simple as a search in the Google search engine where you find a lot of submarine producing countries so they are still part of the long list of countries that you may consider to get the submarine from," Padilla noted.

Padilla said this includes the Nordic countries, Russia, and all other nations  producing the stealthy craft.

"But I cannot at this point say if there is a shortlist that has been done because there is none at all," he disclosed.

Earlier, Padilla mentioned that the AFP modernization, which is on a three Horizon capability build-up, is already on the Second Horizon or the starting point for completing all the requirements to meet internal and external security challenges.

"So this why you may have heard recently that the keel-laying ceremony for our frigate that was ordered from South Korea has been announced and that in essence by 2020 if I'm not mistaken, the delivery of the first working frigate of the Philippine Navy will be in the offing. As to the submarine capability buildup this is very long term development, it is not something that we can get off the shelf, it is a capability that needs to be slowly, deliberately and in consultation with our allies, the United States included," he added.

With this, the decision on whether to acquire submarines will be made in due time, Padilla stressed. (PNA)

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