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Also the TASS and CIWS and a proper ECM suite

SPYDER missiles added to arsenal
January 24, 2019 at 10:05 pm by PNA

“Yes, we are. [However], I do not know [yet] the exact number of [batteries we will be getting],” Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said in a message to the Philippine News Agency Thursday when sought for an update on the military’s modernization efforts.

SPYDER is short for Surface-to-air Python and Derby mobile-air defense system that was developed by the Israeli defense technology firm, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, with assistance from Israel Aerospace Industries.

General Discussion / Re: Black Hawks for the PAF?
« on: June 20, 2020, 08:36:50 PM »
Is it really worth the downs for just a helicopter with a ramp though? I think this might still be somewhat on topic mainly because the question is; is the money that may be allocated to the Mi-171 be worth it, or would it be better suited to buy more of the 412EP which is being touted as the UH-1H replacement, the S-70i which is a significant upgrade to the 412EP, or the CH47 which has always been part of the PAF Flight Plan.

The Mi-171 feels like something between the S-70i and the CH47. But does it actually fill a role in the PAF when they have not considered it? Or are we just looking for things it can do to justify the procurement?

General Discussion / Re: Black Hawks for the PAF?
« on: June 20, 2020, 01:03:37 PM »
What happened to the Mi-171 deal? I thought they were in Russia recently to inspect the production line. Couldn't get a CAATSA waiver?

Seems highly unlikely to trigger CAATSA. This is not as sophisticated to Turkey's S-400 purchase.

But I still don't understand the push to get Mi-171, when this is just a marginal upgrade in lift capability to the S-70i and would be a maintenance burden due to a new maintenance line needed for a new platform. Why not just get more 412EPs, S70i or finally get some CH47s. The only thing I can see as the intent for this purchase is purely political to appease Russia.

Progression of developments;

Paredes Air Station:

Gozar Air Station:

How about Conrado Yap?

Is there an ETA on when the SSM-700K tubes would be installed?

^^ interesting... so technically speaking, there are currently no BRP GdP Class ships that are currently seaworthy or are ready to be at sea?

It was supposed to go into drydock. But with both PS-15 and PS-16 down, that may be deferred.

Why not just go with it, it's been sitting in Subic for so long now.

^^ interesting... so technically speaking, there are currently no BRP GdP Class ships that are currently seaworthy or are ready to be at sea?

Technically speaking, I believe PNoy or the Liberal Party lost congressional majority during the mid-term elections. Hence, it was not under his preference that the franchise was not approved under his term.

I remember the issue regarding Data Link 16, is this data link format also implemented?. If CIWS and TASS are "Fitted For But Not With", I am hoping that Data Link 16 is included in the delivery.

Link16 is a FFBNW item because it is actually JUSMAG that has to install it, in cooperation with. JUSMAG-selected contractor and the PN. What isn’t discussed is that the same process would have been followed had Thales won the CMS bid.

Given that FA-50s in the PAF already have Link16 support, that shouldn’t be an issue.

More details here:

Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link

But wasn't the question more about the compatibility of the CMS to Link16 as the NS Baseline 2 is a new system that has not been certified yet to use this system? While the Tacticos is already known to be compatible with it

At some point, numbers do make a difference though.
One Shaldag can only be in one place at one time.

Yup. Fewer ships also means they have to be at sea longer in between yard time.

Which has been happening already as well. What more with even lesser ships.

I am just wondering if these systems such as "CIWS", "Towed Sonar Array" and "Air and Surface Search Radar" are implemented.

CIWS and TASS - no. FFBNW.

Surface radar used is the Hensoldt TRS-3D Baseline D.

Videos & Images / Re: C-130 in action
« on: January 21, 2020, 06:49:24 PM »
4704 with the new paint scheme as well;

(all credits to owners are in the links)

General Discussion / Re: Philippines reveal multirole fighter options
« on: November 20, 2019, 08:43:17 AM »
First time I've heard Typhoon mentioned as an option, was also under the impression the F-16s pretty much already had this in the bag.

See, I had read differntly, that Saab had it in the bag

Was skeptical then and still skeptical now

If there's anything that even old timawans always expect is that nothing is final until that thing is accepted and delivered.

Even deals that have been signed and were in the progress of being delivered had been cancelled mid-way (re: refurbed 21 UH-1H/D).

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