Author Topic: PCG Small MRRV / Small Craft / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement  (Read 3527 times)

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
What are the official PCG vessel size requirements (from publicly available documents)?

Quote
This is from www.offshorepatrolasia.com as presented by the PCG during the Annual OPV Asia Pacific

"Three Circular of Requirements of the PCG:"

* 15-25 meter vessel
* 35-45 meter vessel
* 80-125 meter vessel (OPV)

From available public documents, the closest acquisition plan / wishlist of the PCG that's similar to the PN's Desired Force Mix comes from the Philippine APEC Counter-Terrorism Action Plan Philippine APEC Counter-Terrorism Action Plan.

Quote
"Need to acquire the following surface assets: two (2) 100-meter high endurance vessels, 13 30-56 meter multi-role response vessels, four (4) buoy tenders and 20 fast assault/interdiction crafts." - Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) document, July 2011



« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 01:47:01 AM by Herbie »

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2016, 04:26:33 AM »
The pending acquisition of four (4) brand new 24-meter patrol boats under the Philippine Ports and Coast Guard Capability Development Project contributes to this pending "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement.

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2016, 04:27:44 AM »
Based on NEDA's Comprehensive and Integrated Infrastructure Program as of 15 May 2015 list, there is a requirement for the "Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV", the :


Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV
Acquisition of 25-Meter MRRV will be deployed among the fifty-eight (58) CG Stations all throughout the country. To respond in the area during the conduct of search and rescue operation, assist in control of oil pollution and protection of maritime environment, enforce applicable maritime laws within the designated area of responsibility, assist in socio- economic develolopment of national and local government units, serve as platform for rapid response during relief operation in the area and transport personnel and logistics support. Secure the integrity and security of the country's maritime territory. Quick spraying of oil spill and deterrent to illegal acts at high sea and surveillance missions. Decrease in maritime pollution and maritime accidents.

Budget:  PHP 2,718,690,000 / USD 60,242,282.673
Status: Submitted to DOTC last 23 Jan 2012.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 04:33:06 AM by Herbie »

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2016, 04:28:52 AM »

From the Coastal Surveillance 2013 conference the PCG participated in, screenshots of the "PCG - Development in Maritime Security and Coastal Surveillance" document they presented showed the section - PCG Capability Development section showing 4 pictures of assets (maybe a wish list and some existing assets) : Offshore Support Vessel, Multi-role Fast Craft, Medium Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft and BO-105 CBS5.


Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2016, 04:32:31 AM »
From the Department of Finance website:

Quote
<snipped>

Besides the loan agreement, Japan also announced the provision of additional vessels for the PCG through a 600 million yen grant (about P280 million) for the procurement of high-speed boats and other equipment to boost the Philippines’ anti-terrorism and security activities.

This includes the acquisition of one 20-meter high-speed vessel and 14 units of 11-meter high speed boats.

<snipped>

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2017, 09:10:54 PM »
Quote
PCG seeks new boats vs pirates

Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) - January 15, 2017 - 12:05am

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) has proposed the purchase of high-speed boats armed with two .30 caliber machine guns each to beef up security patrols and fight off pirates plaguing the waters off Zamboanga, Basilan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi provinces in Mindanao.

No number of units needed mentioned in this article.

aris_glock40

  • Timawan
  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 11:04:47 PM »
Quote
PCG seeks new boats vs pirates

Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) - January 15, 2017 - 12:05am


No number of units needed mentioned in this article.
Based on NEDA's Comprehensive and Integrated Infrastructure Program as of 15 May 2015 list, there is a requirement for the "Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV", the :


Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV

Good day sir Herb!

Budget:  PHP 2,718,690,000 / USD 60,242,282.673
Status: Submitted to DOTC last 23 Jan 2012.

To sir Herb,
 
Might the number of Hulls be relevant on the project above?

I can't help to think that our planners in the Maritime LE might or should consider asked the US on its option to withdraw the Aid it Originally intends to provide to the PNP's Anti-Narcotic program that cost around $30M & instead redirect it to the Philippine Coast Guard to fill up the small MRRV project as you mentioned before that it will not be a priority since Bigger ships are much priority but with the requirements to safeguard our Littoral areas in the south against the piracy & Terrorism our planners should take it as an opportunity to ask the US to consider reprioritize the FPB needs.

As the said amount will help jump start the PCG's procurement plans on the small MRFC.

just my thought Sir Herb.

aris_glock40

  • Timawan
  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26
    • View Profile
Defender- Class boat for the PCG
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2017, 03:59:34 AM »
"During the briefing, Commodore Garcia proposed for the procurement of Response Boat-Small (RBS) also known as Defender- Class boat to strengthen the Maritime Law Enforcement operation of PCG. "
https://www.facebook.com/TanodBaybayinNgPilipinas/posts/1178370978927876


In Relation to my post earlier in what type of Boat that the PCG wishes to equipped with Machine Gun. again sorry for my speculations but It maybe the High-speed small boats to be provided by Japan as its a done deal already.
 
As there wasn't any Talk's yet in procuring an FPB in a small MRRV category.
while the 11M RIB's similar in size to what our Elite Naval Infantry Unit's used in their mission in fighting the terrorist in the south had a provision for multiple MG Mounts that depends if the Japanese will allow its builder to install the Gun mount as it will appear as an offensive platform.
My thought.

From the Department of Finance website:

Quote

Besides the loan agreement, Japan also announced the provision of additional vessels for the PCG through a 600 million yen grant (about P280 million) for the procurement of high-speed boats and other equipment to boost the Philippines’ anti-terrorism and security activities.

This includes the acquisition of one 20-meter high-speed vessel and 14 units of 11-meter high speed boats.

Quote
PCG seeks new boats vs pirates

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) has proposed the purchase of high-speed boats armed with two .30 caliber machine guns each to beef up security patrols and fight off pirates plaguing the waters off Zamboanga, Basilan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi provinces in Mindanao.

« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 05:01:08 AM by aris_glock40 »

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Re: PCG "Small" MRRV / Multi-role Fast Craft (MRFC) requirement
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2017, 03:45:36 AM »
@aris_glock40, I have no idea if the planned 6 unit 25 meter MRRV project is still pending or was cancelled.

Quote
PCG seeks new boats vs pirates

Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) - January 15, 2017 - 12:05am


No number of units needed mentioned in this article.
Based on NEDA's Comprehensive and Integrated Infrastructure Program as of 15 May 2015 list, there is a requirement for the "Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV", the :


Acquisition of 6 units of 25 Meter MRRV

Good day sir Herb!

Budget:  PHP 2,718,690,000 / USD 60,242,282.673
Status: Submitted to DOTC last 23 Jan 2012.

To sir Herb,
 
Might the number of Hulls be relevant on the project above?

I can't help to think that our planners in the Maritime LE might or should consider asked the US on its option to withdraw the Aid it Originally intends to provide to the PNP's Anti-Narcotic program that cost around $30M & instead redirect it to the Philippine Coast Guard to fill up the small MRRV project as you mentioned before that it will not be a priority since Bigger ships are much priority but with the requirements to safeguard our Littoral areas in the south against the piracy & Terrorism our planners should take it as an opportunity to ask the US to consider reprioritize the FPB needs.

As the said amount will help jump start the PCG's procurement plans on the small MRFC.

just my thought Sir Herb.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 05:24:51 AM by Herbie »

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
From a civilian POV, procuring new small craft assets makes sense when looking at the PCG's 2016 Annual Procurement Plan.

Under PCG's 2016 Annual Procurement Plan, for example, there's some maintenance budget for the DF-309 15.28 meter small craft:

II. SMALL CRAFT REPAIR
 A. Dry-docking and Repair of DF-309 - 7,000,000.00
 B. Overhauling of Port and Starboard Main Engine and Repair of Transmissions of DF-309 - 9,000,000.00

This PHP 16 million maintenance budget is more than 53-64% of the price of a Defender Class / RB-S boat mentioned by the PCG OIC that they need.

Quote
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/596375/news/nation/us-to-provide-monetary-aid-to-phl-coast-guard-nbsp

Moreover, Kim also promised to expedite PCG's acquisition of fast boats, which cost 25 to 30 million pesos, as this is what the country needs, according to  Commodore Joel Garcia.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2017, 08:44:19 PM by Herbie »

sirius

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 30
    • View Profile
Quote
IC14157


A 50m multi-mission monohull patrol vessel for illegal fishing with the flexibility to lead in disaster relief and/or rescue operations, as well as to serve as a platform for research.

http://www.incatcrowther.com/product/ic14157-50m-multi-mission-vessel

40niner

  • Global Moderator
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 166
  • Obsolete weapons do not deter.
    • View Profile
^ It does not fit into the PCG req't.  Pls see original post (topmost). 

That 50-mtr specs is the BFAR Vessel(s) current under-construction at Josefa Shipway in Navotas City.  Hopefully, these vessels will be complete as scheduled in the later half of this year (2017).
Obsolete weapons do not deter. You do not base a defence policy on someone else's good intentions.
- Apr 7, 1989 [Baroness Margaret Thatcher, UK PM (1979-90)]

40niner

  • Global Moderator
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 166
  • Obsolete weapons do not deter.
    • View Profile
So after all the previous ambivalence and uncertainty on the news of the Ocea 24-meter boats and OPV, does this mean that the French GMA-RORO loan re-alignment really pushed thru?

PHILSTAR : Pinoy executives in France to inspect boats for PCG

Quote
Filipino officials inspected four brand new 24-meter fast patrol boats in France purchased by the Philippine government to modernize its Coast Guard fleet.
Close Ad X

Transportation Secretary Arthur Tugade visited the shipyard of French boat manufacturer OCEA in Sables d’Olonne on Saturday to inspect the French patrol boats (FPV 72 MKII).

The boats are part of the contract signed between the Department of Transportation and OCEA on Sept. 9, 2014 to modernize the Coast Guard’s fleet.

Aside from the four fast patrol boats, the contract also includes a brand new 82-meter offshore patrol vessel (OPV 270 MKII), a five-year preventive maintenance for all five boats, spare parts and technical assistance and training for the crew.
...
Obsolete weapons do not deter. You do not base a defence policy on someone else's good intentions.
- Apr 7, 1989 [Baroness Margaret Thatcher, UK PM (1979-90)]

Herbie

  • Timawan
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 138
    • View Profile
Thanks 40niner!  :)

Care of pachador, he quoted a related Sept 27, 2016 - GMA News article that states:

"The next one will be arriving in December, the next three months thereafter darating na siya. The president two weeks also approved the procurement of two vessels katulad ng sa China, yung dalawang malaki. Magiging malaking tulong sa amin. We are also negotiating two more vessels from France," he added.

I'm wondering what are the sizes of those two vessels.

So after all the previous ambivalence and uncertainty on the news of the Ocea 24-meter boats and OPV, does this mean that the French GMA-RORO loan re-alignment really pushed thru?

PHILSTAR : Pinoy executives in France to inspect boats for PCG

Quote
Filipino officials inspected four brand new 24-meter fast patrol boats in France purchased by the Philippine government to modernize its Coast Guard fleet.
Close Ad X

Transportation Secretary Arthur Tugade visited the shipyard of French boat manufacturer OCEA in Sables d’Olonne on Saturday to inspect the French patrol boats (FPV 72 MKII).

The boats are part of the contract signed between the Department of Transportation and OCEA on Sept. 9, 2014 to modernize the Coast Guard’s fleet.

Aside from the four fast patrol boats, the contract also includes a brand new 82-meter offshore patrol vessel (OPV 270 MKII), a five-year preventive maintenance for all five boats, spare parts and technical assistance and training for the crew.
...
« Last Edit: April 12, 2017, 02:47:20 AM by Herbie »