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AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« on: August 04, 2019, 02:56:05 PM »
AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
The military spokesman’s statement is markedly stronger than previous statements of security officials on the clandestine passage of China's naval vessels

JC Gotinga
Published 8:28 AM, August 03, 2019
Updated 8:28 AM, August 03, 2019

https://www.rappler.com/nation/236951-afp-hits-deception-china-warships-passage

MANILA, Philippines – The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) said there was “duplicity” when Chinese warships traversed Philippine waters recently without prior notice to the government, and with their automatic identification systems (AIS) turned off.

“Wala po tayong naobserbahan sapagkat ‘yun pong ating mga radars, hindi sila na-detect because ‘yun nga po, may duplicity na ginawa sapagkat in-off nila ‘yung kanilang identification systems na siyang nagagamit sa pag-identify ng mga vessels,” AFP spokesperson Brigadier General Edgard Arevalo said in a forum earlier this week.

(We didn't observe anything because our radars were unable to detect them because, as we have said, there was duplicity done because they turned off their identification systems that are used in identifying vessels.)

At least 4 Chinese warships passed through the Sibitu Strait in the waters of Tawi-Tawi since February this year, undetected by Philippine radars, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana revealed last week.

Lorenzana clarifies that it was not an aircraft carrier but several smaller Chinese naval vessels, and that China should have informed Philippine authorities about their passage

It appeared that Philippine authorities were alerted only after the vessels’ passage, and through unofficial information made public by Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio on July 19.

Lorenzana afterwards said Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jianhua admitted to the passage of several warships but denied they included the Liaoning, the largest of China’s commissioned naval vessels.

On Monday, July 29, Lorenzana told CNN Philippines the Chinese warships must have turned their AIS off, since they were able to pass undetected by military radars near the Sibutu Strait.

Although the waterway is considered an international sea lane where vessels from any country have the right of innocent passage, international maritime law requires warships to notify a country’s government and secure “diplomatic clearance” before entering its territorial waters.

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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 07:31:19 AM »
so much for being "friends" eh!... hope Dutz and the AFP will learn there lesson on this one..  >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 01:10:43 PM »
so much for being "friends" eh!... hope Dutz and the AFP will learn there lesson on this one..  >:( >:( >:( >:(

People really need to take the term "friend" into context.

When a person calls you "kuya", does he really think you are his sibling, or is he simply making nice?

You may want to check this out

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3740.0

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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 09:57:35 AM »
Defense chief on Chinese ships: Why the secrecy?

By: Christia Marie Ramos, Frances G. Mangosing, Julie M. Aurelio, Melvin Gascon - @inquirerdotnet Philippine Daily Inquirer / 06:00 AM August 10, 2019

Lorenzana, along with other defense officials, has been reporting such vessels disregarding communications by Philippine authorities. The defense chief particularly noted that Chinese warships had passed through Sibutu Strait near Tawi-Tawi four times since February.

This week, two Chinese survey ships were reported seen within the country’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ). Ryan Martinson, assistant professor of the China Maritime Studies, tweeted images of the Dong Fang Hong 3 off the waters of Ilocos Norte and the Zhanjian off the waters of the Bicol and Eastern Visayas regions.

“I am not saying that they are up to no good, but why the secrecy? Why turn off your AIS (automatic identification system) and refuse to acknowledge the challenges from Philippine law enforcement agencies? With all these developments we in the defense sector are very much alarmed,” Lorenzana told Inquirer.net on Friday.


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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 10:08:21 AM »
Locsin says PHL 'firing off' diplomatic protest over presence of Chinese ships in EEZ
Published August 9, 2019 10:11am
Updated August 9, 2019 10:25am

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/703991/locsin-says-phl-firing-off-diplomatic-protest-over-presence-of-chinese-ships-in-eez/story/

The Philippines is set to lodge another diplomatic protest against China, this time in connection with the two Chinese vessels that were spotted in the Philippines exclusive economic zone (EEZ).

On Twitter, Foreign Affairs Secretary Teodoro Locsin Jr. said they are "firing off" the diplomatic protest after Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana questioned the business of Chinese research vessels and warships in Philippine waters.

"Okay, got it, General. @DFAPHL firing off diplomatic protest," Locsin tweeted.

The move came after Ryan Martinson, assistant professor at China Maritime Studies Institute of Naval War College, claimed that a Chinese oceanographic survey ship was sighted operating in Philippine sea territory.

Martinson said Chinese ship Zhanjian, which was just 75 nautical miles away, started operating in the Philippine east coast on August 3.

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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 11:06:42 AM »
5 more Chinese warships spotted in Philippine waters in July, August

The military says this is in addition to the passage of 4 Chinese vessels earlier this year, all without permission from the Philippine government
JC Gotinga
Published 7:28 PM, August 14, 2019
Updated 1:33 AM, August 15, 2019

https://www.rappler.com/nation/237764-more-chinese-warships-spotted-philippine-waters-july-august-2019

MANILA, Philippines – Five more Chinese warships were recently spotted venturing into the country’s southernmost territorial waters, according to the Armed Forces of the Philippines Western Mindanao Command (AFP Westmincom).

Coastal patrols monitored the passage of 2 Chinese naval vessels in July and 3 this month, said Lieutenant General Cirilito Sobejana, AFP Westmincom Commander, on Wednesday, August 14.

The warships were seen passing through Sibutu Strait, considered an international sea lane where foreign ships have the right of innocent passage. However, customary maritime law requires warships to notify the government of the coastal state beforehand.

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Below are photos of the vessels, released by the AFP-Westmincom:










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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2019, 01:11:35 PM »
Chinese warships that entered PH territory not hostile, says Westmincom chief
By: Julie S. Alipala - Reporter / @alipalajulieINQ
Inquirer Mindanao / 04:37 PM August 15, 2019

ZAMBOANGA CITY – Lt. Gen. Cirilito Sobejana, Western Mindanao Command (Westmincom) chief said the Chinese warships that entered into Philippine territory last July and this month never showed any hostility to the country’s security forces.

Sobejana told the Inquirer that based on their observation, the Chinese warships “were not hostile and there were no indications of their being hostile.”

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Re: AFP hits 'deception' in China warships' passage
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2019, 09:50:55 AM »
AFP makes adjustments amid China warships passage on PH waters
By Priam Nepomuceno  August 16, 2019, 6:39 pm Share

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1078028

MANILA -- The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) on Friday said it is making adjustments following the series of uncoordinated passages of Chinese warships in the country's territorial waters.

"Actually, may mga ginagawa tayo ano, hindi lang natin pwedeng bangitin lahat ng ating mga hakbangin (We are doing something. We cannot divulge all of our moves) but at the same time, we, of course, strengthen our relations with our allies, to protect of course 'yung tinatawag nating (what we call) freedom of navigation, to protect those yung masiguro na lahat ng (to ensure all) concerned countries ay ano, magbigay, freely na nakakapunta sa mga lugar na ito at nagagawa ang maluwag na pagdaloy ng ating kalakal (will be able to freely travel to these areas and secure the smooth transport of our goods)," Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief-of-staff, Gen. Benjamin Madrigal said.

Reports said there had been a series of unauthorized passages of Chinese naval vessels in Sibutu Strait and other territorial waters of the country.

Aside from naval assets, Madrigal said the newly-activated Coast Watch Systems, including other surveillance units, along with the help of intelligence and information-gathering capabilities of the Philippines’ allies, are being used in this initiative.

Madrigal said these incidents are a national security concern aside from causing unnecessary confrontations.

"Halimbawa magkaroon ng (For example, in case there are) unnecessary confrontations, mas maganda kung napag-uusapan yung mga coordinations (it's much better if coordinations are being talked about) like these eh nagpapaalam para masiguro natin na hindi naman naba-violate ang ating (they should inform us so we can ensure that there is no violation of our) territory," he added.

Earlier, the Western Mindanao Command reported that five Chinese naval vessels passed through Sibutu Strait -- four recorded in July and the last on August 4.

Meanwhile, Department of National Defense (DND) Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said he is recommending the filing of a diplomatic protest following the series of unauthorized passages of Chinese warships in Philippine waters.

"Oo, automatic yun (Yes, that's automatic)," he added.

Lorenzana said the Philippines has yet to receive any advance warning or information from the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) regarding the entry of its ships.

"We did not receive any advance warning, advance notice that there are warships passing through Sibutu Strait," he added, despite an earlier pledge from the Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jianhua that the country will be informed in advance of any movement of Chinese naval craft in Philippine waters. (PNA)