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Ayoshi

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Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
« on: April 01, 2019, 02:55:42 PM »
See also:
* Del Pilar Class Frigate Upgrade Acquisition Project of the Philippine Navy
* Philippine Navy's OPV requirement
* Ships of the Philippine Navy

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https://news.mb.com.ph/2019/02/24/upgrading-del-pilar-frigates-to-boost-navys-capabilities/
Published February 24, 2019, 7:39 PM

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ďKasi malaki ang kailangang pera to make it at par with the frigate kaya. Iyun din iyung future plan ng navy to upgrade this capability para maging frigate siya kasi yung capability ng frigate wala pa sa kanya eh [We need money to make it at par with the frigate. Thatís the future plan of the navy to upgrade this capability to make it a frigate because the capability for it to become a frigate is not yet there],Ē he said.

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ďWe classify it as pure off shore patrol vessel because a  frigate will be a frigate when they have its missile capabilies, torpedoes capabilities. but ito [but this] the capability of Del Pilar  pilar is just off shore patrol vessel thatís why we donít consider as a frigate,Ē he said.

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Is a Downgrade on the way?

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Currently there is no specific category for Offshore Patrol Vessels in the PN Ship Classification Standard, but based on how things were made in other ships, it is expected that the upcoming changes will be made:

* BRP Gregorio del Pilar: from FF-15 to PS-15.
* BRP Ramon Alcaraz: from FF-16 to PS-16.
* BRP Andres Bonifacio: from FF-17 to PS-17.


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Once this happens, the Philippine Navy will officially have zero frigates, which is a first since the Philippine Navy continuously maintained similar-type vessels (classified as destroyer escorts) in 1967 (the RPS Datu Kalantiaw).

http://maxdefense.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-del-pilar-class-frigates-upgrade.html

« Last Edit: April 02, 2019, 10:11:20 PM by Ayoshi »

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Re: Del Pilar class frigate be reclassified as an OPV?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2019, 03:22:11 PM »
Del Pilar class:
* BRP Gregorio Del Pilar (FF-15) - ex-USCGC Hamilton (WHEC-715)
* BRP Ramon Alcaraz (FF-16) - ex-USCGC Dallas (WHEC-716)
* BRP Andres Bonifacio (FF-17) (ex-USCGC Boutwell -- WHEC 719)



BRP Gregorio del Pilar (FF-15) with its AW-109E naval helicopter. Photo taken from Public Affairs Office, Philippine Navy - Philippine Navy Official Facebook page via wikipedia.org
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BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16) with BRP Gregorio del Pilar and US Navy USS John S. McCain during CARAT Philippines 2014. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Jay C. Pugh via wikipedia.org


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Re: Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2019, 10:13:07 PM »
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1066243

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Del Pilar-class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
April 2, 2019, 12:17 pm

"The PN deemed it relevant to redesignate our Del Pilar-class vessels as patrol ships since frigates are supposed to be a naval combatant that has more than one capability to address the multi-dimensional nature of naval warfare. This platform should have the capability for anti-surface, anti-air, anti-submarine and even electronic warfare suites," Navy spokesperson, Captain Jonathan Zata said in a message to the Philippine News Agency Tuesday.

Formerly, the three ships were designated as FF-15 (BRP Gregorio Del Pilar), FF-16 (BRP Ramon Alcaraz) and FF-17 (BRP Andres Bonifacio) to denote their role as frigates.

With the redesignation, these vessels will be using the patrol ship designation or "PS".

"As these capabilities are added into a platform they now take on a different role and even purpose as part of a fleetís battle formation. So the need to correctly term a naval vessel based on its capabilities and specific role/s vis-a-vis being part of a naval force," Zata said.

The Del Pilar-class patrol ships are three former US Coast Guard Hamilton-class cutters acquired by the PN in 2011, 2013, and 2016.

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Re: Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2019, 09:50:50 PM »
The ship registry has been updated appropriately

http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=125.0


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Re: Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 08:48:02 PM »

Re: Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships



the journey from FF to PF to PS

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Re: Del Pilar class frigates redesignated as patrol ships
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 09:56:15 PM »
The original project name for the Del Pilar acquisition was supposed to be the Deep Water Patrol Vessel project. In that sense, it is returning to its roots.