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Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« on: October 23, 2016, 10:51:08 AM »
PINOYS CAN RETURN TO SHOAL IN FEW MORE DAYS
Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
Published October 23, 2016 3:36pm
Updated October 23, 2016 6:44pm
By JOSEPH TRISTAN ROXAS, GMA News

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/586107/news/nation/duterte-says-he-told-the-chinese-scarborough-is-ours

President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday said that he insisted during his meeting with Chinese officials, including President Xi Jinping, that the Scarborough Shoal belongs to the Philippines.

"Ang China ang sabi nila amin 'yan. Sabi ko amin man din 'yan," Duterte said in a speech during his visit to calamity-stricken Tuguegarao City in Cagayan.

In his speech in Isabela, Duterte said both he and Xi held their ground in claiming Scarborough Shoal, with the Chinese leader citing China's supposed historical claim while the Philippine leader presented the award of the Permanent Court of Arbitration.

“Alam ko may problema tayong dalawang bansa dahil diyan sa [South] China Sea na inangkin ninyo na inyong lahat. Kami naman ay nanalo at sinabi na sa Pilipinas yan. But anyway, ang problema, ang sabi niya amin talaa ito historically at hindi kami bibigay dito. Sabi ko, lalo na kami, kasi kami ang nanalo sa korte,” Duterte said.

But Duterte avoided a confrontation with Xi, saying both leaders will discuss the territorial dispute in the future.

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Re: Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 01:34:02 PM »
Duterte: Filipinos may soon be back at Panatag | Inquirer.net - October 24, 2016
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In back-to-back speeches in typhoon-hit Cagayan and Isabela provinces, Mr. Duterte said he and Chinese President Xi Jinping had cordial discussions about the maritime dispute and agreed to further talks, although they both stood their ground on each other’s sovereign rights to the waters.

“We did not talk about arms, we did not talk about war. We talked about how to help each other,” Mr. Duterte said in his speech in Cagayan.

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Blockade over?

It was not immediately clear if that meant China had given an indication it would end its four-year blockade of the rich fishing ground known to Filipinos as Panatag Shoal.

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Two Chinese sources with ties to the leadership in Beijing told Reuters last week China would consider giving Philippine fishermen conditional access to disputed waters in the South China Sea after a meeting between Xi and Mr. Duterte.
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Re: Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 07:37:28 AM »
Filipinos should be allowed to access Panatag Shoal's lagoon —former envoy | GMA news - October 24, 2016
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Former Philippine Permanent Representative to the United Nations Lauro Baja on Monday said Malacañang should clarify which part of Panatag Shoal will the Filipinos be allowed to access.

Baja said in an interview on Unang Balita that Filipino fishermen should be allowed to access the shoal's lagoon, which is rich in marine products.

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The story behind the CSIS photos showing PH fishermen outside Scarborough
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 05:52:48 PM »
The following photo has generated a fair amount of commentary, and much of which question whether or not the truce that the PH established with China actually translated to action on-the-ground so to speak.



Clarity, interestingly, came from one-of-FVR's men who posted on Manny Mogato's FB page

https://www.facebook.com/mmogato/posts/10211436554977371?comment_id=10211436987628187&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R8%22%7D



For contrast, it is important to note that prior to the truce, merely approaching Scarborough would result in this

https://youtu.be/OVqH_snfm54

https://youtu.be/VTacwydzJdw

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Re: Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2017, 03:06:28 PM »
Heavy Chinese presence remains . . . but has anyone seen any reports of Filipino fishermen being barred entry?

http://defenseph.net/2017/02/18/scarborough-this-week-chinese-cutters-and-fishing-vessels/


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Re: Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2017, 05:01:01 PM »
haven't heard any such report at least in the province of Zambales. Not sure though for other provinces since lots of our fishermen from different places fishes in Scarborough.

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Re: Duterte says he told the Chinese: Scarborough is ours
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 01:23:51 AM »
From-the-field reports are needed to monitor this "trip wire"

Palace: Long-term fishing in Panatag shoal still 'uncertain'
Wednesday, November 02, 2016
By RUTH ABBEY GITA MALACAÑANG

On Wednesday was uncertain whether China will permanently allow the Filipinos to fish in the Panatag Shoal in the West Philippine Sea. Presidential Spokesperson Ernesto Abella told reporters that the present arrangement between the Philippines is that Filipino fishermen can now "go and fish" in the shoal.

"At this stage, we're not talking guarantees. We're just going by the fact that they, the fishermen, can now just go," Abella said. "Presently, it's going by the friendly agreement that has been raised. So we'll go. We'll proceed along that lines," he added. Following the state visit of President Rodrigo Duterte to China from October 18 to 22, Filipino fishermen has since been allowed to go to Panatag Shoal without being barred.

Read more: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/manila/local-news/2016/11/03/palace-long-term-fishing-panatag-shoal-still-uncertain-507092
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