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PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« on: October 16, 2016, 10:41:42 PM »

For the upcoming five TC-90's, maintenance is a very big concern of the Japanese for good reason hehehe

Seems they'll be hiring JAMCO for the training/maintenance of the TC-90's for the Philippine Navy as I understand the document care of google translate. Paulit ulit talaga yung maintenance training for the PN sa buong document. Some details also of the Japanese missiles.

http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/agenda/meeting/bouei_gijutsu/sonota/04_a.pdf

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In 2016 May Philippines Defense Minister telephone conversation the day was done in two days, specifically the cooperation of the following
Make sure that we turned into.

- Ratio of up to five aircraft of the transfer of the MSDF training aircraft TC-90 to the Navy

And education and support training to the TC-90 to the relevant ratio navy personnel

· Ratio navy support according to maintain development field of order to maintain the operation of TC-90 by

Upon receiving the telephone conversation, the Ministry of Defense, in the maintenance area of ​​the TC-90 in the Philippines, in order to investigate whether have canal assistance is necessary, the development of Japan's domestic TC-90 in this year in early July
It dispatched a professional engineer of Jamco Co., Ltd., a company in the Philippines navy and maintenance companies.

Examples of maintenance maintenance support program for the Philippine Navy

○ to provide know-how for the maintenance maintenance of equipment, through capacity building of maintenance maintenance and repair field, of the Asia-Pacific Ocean region, sea safety, aim to contribute to peace and stability thing.

○ from maintenance maintenance and repair department of the Philippine Navy, for support for maintaining the development of equipment, demonstrated needs, consider the corresponding in-proof Mamorusho.

○ In 2016 fiscal year, Japanese companies signed a contract, is responsible for the maintenance maintenance and repair plan of the Philippine Navy civilian engineer
Dispatched to the department, etc., it will provide support for capacity building of the ratio naval maintenance servicing sector, including the field survey.

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2016, 07:49:57 PM »
From the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

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Transfer to the Philippines such as the TC-90
2016 September 6

  • Today, equipment related to the Maritime Self-Defense Force training aircraft TC-90 and TC-90 (maintenance equipment, ground support equipment and spare parts) and technical information (maneuvering and maintenance, as well as those associated with these) (hereinafter referred to as "TC-90, etc." that. the transfer to the Philippines (hereinafter referred to as "this matter overseas transfer".) of), was agreed between the leaders of Japan and the Philippines both countries. For this matter overseas transfer, on August 31, 2016, "defense equipment relocation three principles" (2014 April 1, cabinet decision) and the "operational guidelines of defense equipment relocation three principles" (2014 April 1 day National security Council decision, in accordance with 2016 March 22, final revision), the National security Council a result of the deliberations in, it has been confirmed that corresponds to projects that can recognize the overseas transfer.
  • For a large number of island nations of Land holds by islands Philippines, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, transportation and improvement of ability on marine situational awareness is an important issue, and in the Philippine-Japan Defense Minister telephone conversation of this year May 2 days is, it was confirmed that continue to embody the matter overseas transfer in light of the need for strengthening cooperation between the two countries in the maritime security field. This matter overseas relocation, as well as carry out the transfer to the Philippines of the TC-90 of up to five aircraft, and the support of the education and training of the Philippine Navy personnel, the support of the maintenance maintenance field for to continue to sustain the operation by the Philippine Navy is performed. Cooperation Philippines Navy, for humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, transport and performance of duties related to the marine situational awareness, and the Company to operate the TC-90, this matter overseas relocation, the rescue, transport, according to the vigilance and monitoring as, from the fact that contribute to the strengthening of security and defense cooperation with a friendly country Philippines, it has a positive significance from the point of view of our country's security.

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http://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/s_sa/sea2/ph/page3_001796.html

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PHL-Japan Beechcraft TC-90 Aircraft lease agreement
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 10:38:05 PM »
Manila Bulletin - October 25, 2016
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According to Philippine Consul General to Japan Marian Jocelyn Ignacio, one of the highlights of the President’s trip is the planned lease of military planes from Japan, which could reportedly be used to protect the country’s claims in the disputed South China Sea.

“There’s a lot of interest in defense cooperation so what we are really anticipating right now and what we are very excited about is the possibility that there might be a lease of TC (90s) by Japan to the Philippines,” Ignacio said in a media interview.

Ignacio was referring to the five Beechcraft TC-90 training planes the Philippine defense department plans to lease from Japan, that could be used as surveillance aircraft. The proposed accord also involves Japan’s possible commitment to help the Philippines train pilots and aircraft mechanics.

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Government to lease 5 Japanese aircraft for maritime patrol | Philstar - March 10, 2016
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LIPA CITY, Batangas – The government will lease five aircraft from Japan to help patrol the country’s maritime territory, President Aquino announced yesterday.

We are leasing from Japan five TC-90 training aircraft to assist our navy in patrolling our territories, particularly in the West Philippine Sea,” Aquino told the gathering at the change of command ceremony at the Fernando Air Base.

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Last week, the Philippines and Japan signed a deal on the transfer of military equipment and technology, a document Japan needs to allow it to export weapons and guarantee they will not be transferred to a third party.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2016, 10:40:18 PM by Ayoshi »

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Re: PHL-Japan Beechcraft TC-90 Aircraft lease agreement
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 04:10:08 AM »
From: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/10/26/1637480/japan-lease-5-surveillance-aircraft-philippines

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Defense Undersecretary for Finance Raymundo de Vera Elefante said the deal to be signed today in Tokyo is for $7,000 per year for four TC-90 propeller light planes and the fighter TC-90 plane would be leased for $2,000 per year.

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« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 04:16:22 AM by adroth »

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 06:48:28 AM »
PHL, Japan sign agreement on acquisition of patrol vessels, training aircraft
Published October 26, 2016 10:16pm
BY TRISHA MACAS, GMA News
President Rodrigo Duterte and Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday signed agreements to acquire vessels and training aircraft for the Philippines.

Duterte and Abe, after their expanded bilateral meeting at the Prime Minister’s Office, witnessed their secretaries and ministers sign documents for the acquisition of patrol vessels and other equipment for the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) and TC-90 training aircraft.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/586567/news/nation/phl-japan-sign-agreement-on-acquisition-of-patrol-vessels-training-aircraft

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Re: PHL-Japan Beechcraft TC-90 Aircraft lease agreement
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 09:28:53 AM »
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Defense Undersecretary for Finance Raymundo de Vera Elefante said the deal to be signed today in Tokyo is for $7,000 per year for four TC-90 propeller light planes and the fighter TC-90 plane would be leased for $2,000 per year.

Fighter TC90? what does that mean? is one of the planes an armed variant?

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Re: PHL-Japan Beechcraft TC-90 Aircraft lease agreement
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 09:38:43 AM »
Speculatively -- that is probably a typo/mis-interepretation; as @Ayoshi posted this at another forum... :
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The Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) has operated a total of 40 C90 and C90A King Airs, with deliveries beginning in 1973. These have been given various designations by the JMSDF and consist of 34 TC-90 trainers, five LC-90 transports and a single UC-90 which is configured for photographic aerial survey. The TC-90s and the UC-90 comprise the 202 Kyoiku Kokutai (Training Squadron) based at Tokushima, while the LC-90s are attached to various Lockheed P-3 Kokutai (Squadrons) and a NAMC YS-11 Kokutai[11] as liaison aircraft.

... which might have gave a hint, on why the cost of lease for the fifth TC-90 is more expensive.   While these King Air twin-props are basically Mk.1 eyeballs for search and surveillance, the modification made on the single unit, would be a welcome addition.

It's an accepted advantage, however, that high-wing aircraft are much better suited to eyeball observation. BN Islander, Nomad and eventually Cessna Caravan share similar characteristics.

-- ETM: wrong interpretation from the Philstart news article
« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 06:37:08 PM by 40niner »
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Re: PHL-Japan Beechcraft TC-90 Aircraft lease agreement
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 10:02:13 AM »
^ Yeah, I was about to edit my post after I found what the JMSDF's 40 TC90 variants are. You're too quick 40.
So those planes, except for the UC90 are strictly trainers with no added surveillance equipment, huh?     

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2016, 03:04:54 PM »
From the PN Twitter account

The two Philippine Navy pilots, Lt. Cdr. Ryan Tumanda and Lt. Cdr Zyril Villacorta, are now in Japan to undergo... fb.me/1KqTBKYin

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 01:09:57 AM »
From the Philippine Navy Facebook Page:

The two Philippine Navy Instructor Pilots, Lt. Cdr. Ryan Tumanda and Lt. Cdr Zyril Villacorta, are now in Japan to undergo training for the TC-90 aircrafts from Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) for maritime patrol, humanitarian assistance and disaster response, and other missions.

The training began on Nov 28 and will last until March 24, 2017 at JMSDF Tokushima Air Base in Tokushima Prefecture with JMSDF Air Training Command’s 202 Air Training Squadron.

There will be three batches of training for Filipino naval air crew until November 2017. Each batch will be composed of 90 hours training on ground and 170 hours aerial training.

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/JMSDF.PAO.fp/posts/1260991843962531
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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 10:48:10 AM »
First TC-90 aircraft leased from Japan to arrive by Q1 of 2017

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One out of the five TC-90 aircraft, earlier leased from Japan, will be arriving in the Philippines by the first quarter of 2017.

This was disclosed by Philippine Navy (PN) spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna who added that the aircraft may arrive either in February or March at the Sangley Point air facility in Cavite.

Last November, two PN pilots and six air crews left for Japan to start training on the above-mentioned aircraft.

The Department of National Defense (DND) earlier announced that the Philippines will be re-equipping the TC-90s as Japan have stripped of some its equipment, including its surveillance systems.

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 10:42:17 PM »
The delivery coincides with conclusion of the first batch of PN crew-training.

http://www.update.ph/2017/02/2-japanese-aircraft-to-be-delivered-to-philippine-navy-next-month/14790

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The Japan Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) will deliver two of the five leased turbo-prop TC-90 aircraft to the Philippine Navy’s (PN) Sangley Point air facility on March 27. This was confirmed by Navy spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna in an interview Thursday.

The aircraft will be delivered to the country by JMSDF pilots and will be formally transferred to the Navy on the same day.

Lincuna said the remaining three TC-90s will be transferred to the Navy before the end of the year.

He added that the TC-90s will be used to augment the existing Norman-Britten BN-2 Islander fleet, which the Navy uses in patrol, surveillance and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief (HADR) and rapid assessment missions.

Last November, two PN pilots and six air crews left for Japan to start their TC-90 flight training.

The Department of National Defense (DND) earlier announced that the Philippines will re-equip the TC-90s as Japan has stripped them of some equipment, including their surveillance systems.

The country will pay Japan USD7,000 each for the first four aircraft yearly and only USD200 for the fifth, for total of USD28,200 as stipulated in its lease agreement.

The DND added it is also looking at the possibility of using the TC-90 for 20 years while the military is upgrading its equipment.

The TC-90, which is part of the Beechcraft King Air aircraft family, was offered by Japan shortly after the Agreement Concerning the Transfer of Defense Equipment and Technology was finalized Feb. 29 last year.

The TC-90’s patrol range is double that of a small Philippine aircraft, which only has a maximum range of 300 km.

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Re: PN Maritime Patrol Aircraft (TC-90) Project
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2017, 11:33:31 PM »
2 JMSDF TC-90s aircraft to be delivered on March 27
By Priam F. Nepomuceno



MANILA, Feb. 23 (PNA) -- The Japan Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) will deliver two of the five leased turbo-prop TC-90 aircraft to the Philippine Navy's (PN) Sangley Point air facility on March 27.

This was confirmed by Navy spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna in an interview Thursday.

The aircraft will be delivered to the country by JMSDF pilots and will be formally transferred to the Navy on the same day.

Lincuna said the remaining three TC-90s will be transferred to the Navy before the end of the year.

He added that the TC-90s will be used to augment the existing Norman-Britten BN-2 Islander fleet, which the Navy uses in patrol, surveillance and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief (HADR) and rapid assessment missions.

Last November, two PN pilots and six air crews left for Japan to start their TC-90 flight training.

The Department of National Defense (DND) earlier announced that the Philippines will re-equip the TC-90s as Japan has stripped them of some equipment, including their surveillance systems.

The country will pay Japan USD7,000 each for the first four aircraft yearly and only USD200 for the fifth, for total of USD28,200 as stipulated in its lease agreement.

The DND added it is also looking at the possibility of using the TC-90 for 20 years while the military is upgrading its equipment.

The TC-90, which is part of the Beechcraft King Air aircraft family, was offered by Japan shortly after the Agreement Concerning the Transfer of Defense Equipment and Technology was finalized Feb. 29 last year.

The TC-90's patrol range is double that of a small Philippine aircraft, which only has a maximum range of 300 km. (PNA)
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Countdown to the TC-90s
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2017, 11:35:37 PM »
The main thread is in the modernization forum. Will merge this thread with that eventually.

For now . . . countdown to March 27

From: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/10/26/1637480/japan-lease-5-surveillance-aircraft-philippines

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Defense Undersecretary for Finance Raymundo de Vera Elefante said the deal to be signed today in Tokyo is for $7,000 per year for four TC-90 propeller light planes and the fighter TC-90 plane would be leased for $2,000 per year.

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Re: Countdown to the TC-90s
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2017, 01:25:54 PM »
what is a fighter tc90?  ???