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dr demented

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Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« on: June 14, 2018, 01:42:28 AM »
This was something I managed to salvage out of the old Frigate Acquisition Project FB honeypot.  It was some information that was passed to us from the late Adm. Juan Deleon regarding a feasibility study that was done around 1997 regarding installing some form of missile system on the Jacinto class corvettes.




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Re: Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 01:57:02 PM »
The line drawings seem to have been professionally done... we can probably assume this was done by Kongsberg for their Penguin missiles. It's a shame the good Admiral has passed and we can't discuss with him further details, like deck weights and how extensive a refit it would take to install the missiles.

This is however a good jump-off point for further up-arming the Jacinto class, and possibly a good possibility for the PN to try and operate an Anti-Ship missile just shy of larger units like C-Star and others.

Besides, with the AW159s being our defacto ship helicopters, we need to find a small anti-ship missile they can fly with, and the Penguin could be just the missile.

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Re: Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 06:13:28 PM »
The other option in the same class would be MBDA's Marte MK2/N, which has been sold and fitted to much smaller boats.

http://www.janes.com/article/49514/ghannatha-vessels-delivered-idx15d4
https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/marte-mk2-n/


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Re: Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 07:06:11 PM »
The USN has up-armed the Cyclone class with the AGM-176 Griffin. Is this similar to the Penguin or Spike NLOS?

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Re: Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2018, 08:08:14 PM »
The USN has up-armed the Cyclone class with the AGM-176 Griffin. Is this similar to the Penguin or Spike NLOS?
The Griffin's role/mission (similar to the LMM) is to be a cheap, defensive missile to engage small boats (suicide craft) at range. The OTO Melara 76mm already out ranges the Griffin. The Cyclone class does not have the OTO.

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Re: Penguin missile feasibility study for the Jacinto class
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 AM »
Besides, with the AW159s being our defacto ship helicopters, we need to find a small anti-ship missile they can fly with, and the Penguin could be just the missile.

Original(?) PN spec of 150kg --IIRC-- pretty much drained the pool, hence Spike NLOS.
Deployment on the MPAC pretty much accomplishes le vaunted commonality ideal

Weighing even less than Spike NLOS, Sea Venom is the conventional match for Wildcat.

Differences in philosophy between rotary-air launch and surface-ship launch can run the
risk of overloading the former (compared to Sea Venom, Penguin weighs about 390 kg
all-in, and Marte MK2/S just north of 310 kg) --or, far worse, under-arming the latter,
when the 'commonality' mantra is pimped too hard.