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adroth

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Frigate Acquisition Project: Gun, CIWS
« on: February 26, 2018, 11:28:25 AM »
Administrator's note: See also Frigate Acquisition Project thread index for this, and other, sub-systems

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In an effort to keep acquisition costs down, the Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) has been omitted from the FAP project. VADM Empedrad discussed this at the Senate hearing for the Frigate Acquisition Project where he also brought up the need for additional funding. Presumably to support an upgrade program that will add the CIWS at a later date




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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 04:52:39 PM »
What is a Close-In Weapon System (CIWS)?

There are a number of options. But the acknowledged state-of-the-art in the wake of the Falklands War was the Phalanx. Although this is now consider long-in-the-tooth

https://youtu.be/-L0ZAGOuaqg

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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 07:35:54 AM »
560Bilion Pesos???

Kung di pa pala nagkaroon ng investigasyon dito, di pa nalaman na may ganun pondo..

Naisip ko tuloy, fate must be so kind because we resolve the problem of funding. AND MORE..


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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 03:19:22 PM »
USCGC Sherman CIWS photos from 2012

Photos taken during San Francisco Fleet Week 2012











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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 03:25:09 PM »

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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 10:29:40 AM »
If we go down the current FAP trajectory, the acquisition of a Phalanx-based CIWS merely a question of funding and US approval or non-interference.

The Incheons, are, at the very least, are compatible with the Phalanx CIWS using Naval Shield, even back when it was known as a Samsung-Thales product.

From: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/132-republic-of-korea-navy-vessels-ships-and-equipment/rok-navy-frigates-a-destroyers/1184-incheon-class-frigate-ffx-republic-of-korea-rok-navy-gyeonggi-hyundai-heavy-industries-hhi-dsme-south-korea-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html



Korea's follow-on Frigate supports it as well.

South Korean navy receives first FFX-II-class frigate
Gabriel Dominguez, London - Jane's Defence Weekly
02 February 2018

http://www.janes.com/article/77569/south-korean-navy-receives-first-ffx-ii-class-frigate?utm_campaign=PC6110_E18%20DF%20NL%20Naval%20%2006_02_18&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua
   
The Republic of Korea Navy (RoKN) has received its first FFX-II-class guided-missile frigate, according to a statement on 1 February by South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

Named Daegu (with pennant number 818), the 122 m-long ship was handed over to the service by Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME in a ceremony held at the company’s Okpo shipyard on Geoje Island. It is expected to be operationally deployed from the second half of 2018.

Launched in June 2016, Daegu is the first of up to eight vessels of the class expected to enter service with the RoKN. The FFX-II class is a larger variant of South Korea’s six Incheon (FFX-I)-class ships, the first of which entered service in 2013.

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Re: CIWS: Not for now . . . but later
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 10:30:52 AM »
Senator Legarda asked which of our neighbors had CIWS. The table should help

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Re: Frigate Acquisition Project: Gun, CIWS
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2019, 07:01:31 AM »
Are there considerations already on what make and model we would most likely have for the CIWS? And if we are going to be using a gun or missile type CIWS?

Also, is there a comparison of effective on the gun vs missile type? Just doing some random searches, and it looks like the RIM-116 might be more cost effective (cheaper) than a Phalanx or Goalkeeper.