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Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« on: April 24, 2020, 03:42:31 AM »
This development got mixed in with the M113 donation from the Jordan. It really deserves its own thread

M113 APCs and AH-1F Cobras donated by Jordan to the Philippines | Army Recognition - 24 April 2018
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Filipino President Duterte has announced that the Kingdom of Jordan was donating dozens of M113 APCs and two Bell AH-1F Cobra attack helicopters to the Philippine government. The latter would just pay for the repair and refurbishing done through the Jordanian Armed Forces, plus paying for the shipping of the armored vehicles to the Philippines.

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The possible delivery of two Cobra helicopters was already mentioned in July 2017. The initial info is that the Kingdom of Jordan offered to donate four used Bell AH-1F Cobra attack helicopters to the Philippines, and Philippine Air Force officers/technical team and defense officials were able to check out the Cobras in Jordan last June 2017. The figure has been reduced to two, not losing hope to get back to four.

It is still for clarification if the Jordanian AH-1F Cobras being offered are among those new builds they obtained in the late 1980s from the US, or ex-US Army units transferred in 2001. While Jordan received former Israeli AH-1F Tzefas a few years ago, it is highly unlikely that the units offered to the Philippines are from this batch of helicopters from Israel. The Philippines is also not the first country to receive AH-1F Cobras as donation from Jordan. Earlier this year Kenya was reported to have received at least one and probably more AH-1F Cobras from Jordan.

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Sources have revealed that the King of Jordan has reportedly offered a 4-ship donation of AH-1 Cobra gunships to the AFP. It remains to be seen which type we will be receiving from the Jordanian AF, but it could be the ex-US Army F models they received in the 90s.

We would be the 3rd owner, but given Jordan adequately funds their armed forces and has ties with Israel that even facilitated donation of 15 or more AH-1S Tsefa helicopters, we would be in a good place with the donation.

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2020, 03:43:53 AM »
Duterte: Jordan giving 2 attack helicopters | GMA news - May 22, 201
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President Rodrigo Duterte said Tuesday Jordan will give two Cobra attack helicopters to the Philippines even after he lambasted a member of the Middle Eastern nation's royal family who urged him to seek psychiatric help.

"Jordan is giving us two Cobra helicopters. Those things we cannot really afford maybe in my term," Duterte said in a speech during the 120th anniversary celebration of the Philippine Navy.

Duterte admitted he was advised by his National Security Adviser Hermogenes Esperon Jr. not to curse United Nations human rights chief Zeid Ra'ad Al-Hussein because the Philippines was in the process of acquiring the attack helicopters.

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2020, 03:44:00 AM »
http://www.janes.com/article/80285/philippines-to-receive-cobra-helos-from-jordan

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Philippines to receive Cobra helos from Jordan
Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
24 May 2018

The Philippines is to receive two Bell AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters donated from Jordan, national media reported on 22 May.

The procurement was announced by Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, but no further details were provided.

Jordan currently fields 27 AH-1E/F Cobra helicopters, including 16 that in 2014 were donated to the country by Israel. Of these 27, 12 (presumably the donated Israeli platforms) are being upgraded for continued use by the Royal Jordanian Air Force. Of the remaining 15 Cobras, at least three are known to have been donated to Kenya, with two now to be transferred to the Philippines.

Although a relatively old helicopter by today's standards, the 1970s-era AH-1E/F Cobra is still a highly potent attack platform. Designed specifically for the ground-attack role, it is equipped with a chin-mounted three-barreled M197 20 mm Gatling gun, and carries unguided 70 mm rockets or BGM-71A tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided (TOW) air-to-surface missiles, and the two crew members sit in an armoured cockpit.

Having already proved itself on battlefields around the world, including throughout the Middle East, the Cobra should provide a welcome boost to the Philippines’ combat capabilities.

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2020, 03:44:25 AM »
From: https://pcoo.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/20180522-Speech_of_President_Rodrigo_Roa_Duterte_during_the_120th_Philippine_Navy_Anniversary.pdf

"But in my table before I left, that‟s why I was late because I was reviewing it. Jordan is giving us two Cobra helicopters. Those things that we cannot really afford. Maybe in my term pagkatapos... [applause]


He was the one who worked for it. He is now there in Jordan and I got this electronic copy for his authority to accept it. And to Jordan, which faces the same problem like the Philippines, it‟s terrorism"

- Duterte

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2020, 03:44:52 AM »

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2020, 03:45:16 AM »
PH to get 2 Cobra helicopters from Jordan
By Jelly Musico  September 6, 2018, 10:33 pm

MANILA – Special Assistant to the President (SAP) Christopher "Bong" Go on Thursday said the Philippines will get two Cobra helicopters from Jordan.

Go relayed this information to Palace reporters through text message, saying the second-hand helicopters will be delivered in July next year after the training of the Filipino pilots.

Go made the confirmation as the Philippines’s Department of National Defense (DND) and the Jordan Armed Forces-Arab Army signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on defense cooperation.

DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Freihat, signed the MOU on Thursday during the three-day official visit of President Rodrigo Duterte in Jordan.

The defense cooperation MOU was just one of the five agreements signed between the Philippines and Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

The four others include:

* MOU on political consultations signed by Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates of Jordan Mr. Ayman Safadi and the Philippines’ Department of Foreign Affairs Secretary Alan Peter Cayetano;

* Agreement between the Jordan Maritime Commission and the Maritime Industry Authority of the Philippines concerning the Recognition of Certifies under the Terms of the 1978 STCW (Standards of Training, Certification, and Watchkeeping for Seafarers) Convention. Salah Ali Abu Afifeh, director general of the Jordan Maritime Commission and Ambassador of the Philippines to Jordan Akhmad Atlah Sakkam signed the deal;

* Cooperation Framework for Employment of Domestic Workers and MOU on Labor Cooperation signed by Minister of Labour Samir Murad and Labor Secretary Silvestre Bello III; and

* MOU between the Jordan Investment Commission and the Board of Investments-Philippines signed by Minister of State for Investment Affairs Mr. Muhannad Shehadeh and Trade and Industry Secretary Ramon Lopez. (PNA)



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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2020, 04:48:07 AM »
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1076442

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PAF crew in Jordan for 'Cobra' helicopter training
July 30, 2019, 2:51 pm

MANILA -- Philippine Air Force (PAF) helicopter pilots and crews have been sent to Jordan to begin their familiarization training on the two AH-1 "Cobra" attack helicopters donated by the Jordanian government.

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In September last year, the Department of National Defense and the Jordan Armed Forces-Arab Army signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) on defense cooperation.

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2020, 04:48:36 AM »
PH sees delay in delivery of 2 Cobra choppers from Jordan
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQ INQUIRER.net / 09:37 AM September 03, 2019

MANILA, Phillippines — The delivery of two Cobra attack helicopters from Jordan could be delayed by a few months, the Philippine Air Force said.

Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Rozzano Briguez said the attack helicopters, originally set to arrive in the Philippines in September, could be delivered early next year, adding that the training of its pilots is still underway.

“Maybe early next year because the training is ongoing,” Briguez said. “However, both Jordan and the Philippines are doing their best to hasten the process.”

The Jordanian government pledged last year to donate two US-built Bell AH-1 Cobra helicopters, and President Rodrigo Duterte had mentioned this in some of his speeches.

In April, Duterte said Jordan might give more attack helicopters aside from the first two.

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2020, 04:52:24 AM »
The AH-1Fs has already been sighted in PAF colors

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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2020, 12:02:45 AM »
https://www.dbm.gov.ph/index.php/programs-projects/special-allotment-release-order-saro



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On the matter of the version of the aircraft

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-1s.htm

AH-1S Cobra

The AH-1S series was a three-step program to upgrade all existing AH-1G/AH-1Q/AH-1R Cobras to an advanced Modernized version. All AH-1S Cobras were eventually redesignated by the US Army as AH-1P, AH-1E, or AH-1F Modernized Cobras. All Modernized Cobras, including the AH-1S, AH-1P, and AH-1E used the M73 reflex sight for optical sighting and fire control and the Telescopic Sight Unit (TSU). None of the four armament subsystems used with the four AH-1S variants (Modified, Production, Upgunned, and Modernized) were interchangeable without considerable modification or conversion of the AH-1S aircraft.
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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2020, 03:58:55 AM »
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Re: Bell AH-1F Cobra @ PAF
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2020, 12:56:30 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/inquirerdotnet/posts/10160349009024453

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Bell AH-1S Cobra helicopters donated by Jordan government to the Philippine Air Force are also now configured for TOW and Spike NLOS Missiles and will soon be ready for frontline duties.