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What firearms did China donate?
« on: July 01, 2017, 09:25:40 AM »
Duterte receives P370-M worth of firearms, ammo from China
By: Nestor Corrales - Reporter / @NCorralesINQINQUIRER.net / 08:41 PM June 28, 2017

President Rodrigo Duterte checks the scope of a riffle sniper, an ,7.62mm,CS/LR4A, given by China as part of Beijing assistance grant to the Philippines during a turnover ceremony at the hangar of Clark Air Base in Mabalacat Pampanga while Chinese ambassador to the Philippines Zhao Jianhua looks on . INQUIRER PHOTO/JOAN BONDOC

The Philippine government on Wednesday received P370 million worth of arms and ammunition from China.

President Rodrigo Duterte received the donations during a turnover ceremony at Clark Airbase in Pampanga. Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jinhua represented the Chinese government.

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said arms and ammunition amounted to 50 million yuan or more than P370 million.

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President Rodrigo Duterte checks the scope of a riffle sniper, an ,7.62mm,CS/LR4A, given by China as part of Beijing assistance grant to the Philippines during a turnover ceremony at the hangar of Clark Air Base in Mabalacat Pampanga while Chinese ambassador to the Philippines Zhao Jianhua looks on . INQUIRER PHOTO/JOAN BONDOC
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Re: Duterte receives P370-M worth of firearms, ammo from China
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 09:35:59 AM »
China exploring joint military drills with Philippines vs terrorism
By Audrey Morallo (philstar.com) | Updated June 28, 2017 - 7:29pm

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/06/28/1714427/china-exploring-joint-military-drills-philippines-vs-terrorism

MANILA, Philippines — China is exploring joint military exercises with the Philippines, Beijing’s ambassador to Manila said on Wednesday, as he also announced several measures aimed at helping the Philippines fight terrorism.

Speaking at the ceremony for the turnover of Chinese military hardware to the Philippines, Zhao Jianhua, the Chinese ambassador, said Beijing would like to explore the possibility of holding joint military exercises and intelligence training with the Armed Forces of the Philippines, a sign of how far the relations between the two nations have improved since President Rodrigo Duterte assumed the presidency last year.

Aside from the possibility of cooperation between the two nations’ security forces, Zhao also announced that another batch of military hardware was already on its way, and the Philippines could expect it in a few months.

Zhao was speaking at the ceremony for the turnover of military assistance that included TY-85 7.62mm sniper rifles, CS/LR4A high-precision rifles, and CQ-A5 5.56 automatic rifles. The shipment also came with 6 million rounds of ammunition, according to reports.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 10:06:27 AM »


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Zhao was speaking at the ceremony for the turnover of military assistance that included TY-85 7.62mm sniper rifles, CS/LR4A high-precision rifles, and CQ-A5 5.56 automatic rifles. The shipment also came with 6 million rounds of ammunition, according to reports.

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From: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016794528509 (Eunice Samonte)



From: https://www.firearmsforum.com/firearms/Image/44300



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Type 85

From: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016794528509 (Eunice Samonte)





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CS/LR4A

From: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016794528509 (Eunice Samonte)



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Re: Duterte receives P370-M worth of firearms, ammo from China
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 10:52:20 AM »
Norinco CQ-A endurance test by the Italians. https://youtu.be/cahWZkE4dLw

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Re: What firearms did China donate?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2017, 12:34:15 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2017, 02:00:43 PM »
Makes me think as to what chamber does the NDM-86 (TY 85) have. Is it tr 7.62 x 54 ot the 7.62 NATO as that rifle has 2 version, one with the rounded mag for the 7.62x54 round and a box magazine (m14 style) for the 7.62 NATO round.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2017, 03:48:44 AM »
Not the exact same type, but still an interesting reference for us, now that the Type 85 is in the inventory

http://www.dragunov.net/optic_typejjj.html

Type 85

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Re: What firearms did China donate?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2017, 10:31:06 AM »
Some posters on the FB page are concerned about the type or quality of ammos that came with the rifles.
While the TY85 uses non NATO rounds, its not going to be a logistical problem for the AFP. These were designed for sniping use, the GA can simply get the dies and reload the ammos. Just as they do for the MSSR.

7.62x54 ammo for plinking, is widely available even in the US.

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/762x54r-ammo
http://leeprecision.com/pacesetter-dies-7.62-x-54-russian.html

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 05:44:08 PM »
That's the grin of a man who knows he just one-upped the JUSMAG donation of equipment for the PMC by quantity of what he's brought with him.

Consequently, the GA will of course get their hands on samples for T&E before deployment. A good chance to see the inner workings of rifles used by the other side.


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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 05:45:05 PM »
Automatic rifle : CQ (M4 clone) : Qty 3,000
Sniper rifle: Type 85 (Dragunov clone): Qty 90
High precision rifle: CS/LR4 : as above

6 million rounds of ammo for the CQs, 800,000 rounds for the sniper rifles

To be precise:

Rifle, 5.56mm Type CQ-A5b: 3,000 ea with 5M rds of ammo
Rifle, Sniper 7.62mm Type 85: 60 ea with 800K rds of ammo
Rifle, Sniper 7.62mm CS/LR4A7: 30 ea with 200k rds of ammo