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Let's see if the dates on the PNA article and the PhilGEPS screengrab match?

Navy frigate deal: What we need to know
By Jose Cielito Reganit  February 18, 2018, 7:00 am
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April 30 to May 8, 2016 – GRSE was declared non-compliant to the financial requirements of the project as required by Section of the Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of RA 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform Act. Its Net Financial Contracting Capacity (NFCC) was found to be below the approved budget contract of PHP16 billion.

June 16, 2016 – DND Bids and Awards Committee declared HHI as the winning bidder and issued the Notice of Award in its favor.

Sept. 13, 2016 – DND Sec. Lorenzana sent a Notice of Award to Mr. Ki Yeong Sung with a corresponding contract price of PHP 15,744,571,584.00.

Hyundai, which had submitted the second lowest bid, passed the post-qualification -- and on 18-Aug, the new DND Sec Delfin Lorenzana approved the Notice of Award for HHI to deliver the two frigates based on the timeline on the bid. Contract was set to be signed in late September.

Image of the Notice-of-Award (NOA) from PhilGEPS :

The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?

It would indeed be interesting if K-VLS would actually be added as part of the package.

But that would bind PN with the few current load-outs that are already integrated with it.  As it is, only LigNex1 K-SAAM Sea Bow (Surface-to-Air Anti Missile), Red Shark K-ASROC and Hyunmoo-3 Cruise Missile had been tested so far.  Accordingly -- there are no plans to integrate other western missiles, as they already have concurrent Mk.41s for those application.  Both VLS's are installed on their KDX-II and -III

Meanwhile, they have developed a smaller 4-cell K-VLS (2x2) module which will be installed on their newest Minelayer and LST-II, with the K-SAAM as anti-air self-defense, supposedly in lieu of RAM. 

General Discussion / Re: GDP class ship in drydock
« on: November 14, 2017, 09:48:02 PM »
That is actually BRP Ramon Alcaraz FF16 on the floating dry dock.

USS John S. McCain on the 2nd photo.  Still has not sailed to Yokosuka?  The new crack is rather really serious.

Here is a pictorial summary of the evolution of the baselines of NS as showcased last year(2016).  As noted, all classes were/will be from SoKor yards. 

This one below is older, as the FFX-III design wasn't awarded yet.

Another older presentation.  Take note that this was circa STC (Samsung-Thales) era.  Also has the two-display console on foreground.

Bad news: Naval Shield ICMS baseline 2 console already being touted at MADEX 2017 for our frigates.

Good news: We're going from no CMS to a current system for the Korean and Malaysian navies.

I'll answer the 'misinterpreted IRAQ' that are posted on FB.  I tried listening to this word over and over -- and I began to understand that the presenter was talking about ships of 'ROK' navy, rather than the west Asian country.  He did used this term further around the Baseline-3 presentation.  Also at the end of this statement for Baseline two, he used a garbled term, but which I understood as 'export' and followed by the Malaysian training vessels and then the new Philippine frigate.

As noted below, most of those on the ship depicted are ROK navy classes. Plus -- MY-TRV and Philippine Frigate

^ Pls take note that after the presentation of the current Baseline-2, @3:39 time-stamp, the presenter also showed a more advance and newly developed trio-console for its Baseline-3, which shall be install on the under-development FFX Batch-III.

Images of the Multi-function console of the NS-ICMS Baseline 2 which is proposed for PN's frigate.

Images/Vid-grabs credited to NavalRecognition.Com from its MADEX 2017 South Korea Maritime Defense Exhibition Day 3 video .

Pls take note of timestamp on the video.

Lots of lessons are to be / being learned for this FAP.  While it was understandable that PN was trying to initially grope in the dark during bid definition stage, the succeeding stage 2 (via the SBB amendments did try to address some inadequacy.  Baseline established.  It was perceived that a set of supposed sub-components were also included during the submission and opening of bids -- in order to established if such incorporated sub-systems were compliant with the baseline.  The bone of contention lies there.  Substitution could possibly lead to non-compliance, and actually -- possibly violating the procurement law.

The current US Navy FFG(X) procurement process give a valuable lesson, including those from their own 'flawed' LCS program.  The platform is calling for a parent design which had been constructed and demonstrated at sea -- rather than a developmental design.  This approach lessens the time involved in testing and debugging -- thus having the platform operational at an early date.

Another basic US procurement approach is the provision of Govt Furnished Equipment (GFE) for the platforms.  PN could have had de-coupled the combat and warfare systems from the platform, so that it will have the ultimate control on which subsystems and integration it wants.  Separate acquisitions with long-term and multiple platform outlook could have been done.

Monday morning quarterbacking is rather easy...  But is the game really over?!

Finally, Japan's enabling law had converted the lease for the five aircraft into donation.

NikkieAsianReview : Japan to donate 5 navy training aircraft to Philippines

TOKYO -- Japan will give five military training aircraft to the Philippines at the end of March 2018 to help bolster the Southeast Asian country's ability to protect its coast, Japan's Ministry of Defense said Wednesday.

The deal follows a change in Japanese law during the last ordinary session of parliament that paved the way for donating secondhand defense equipment to developing countries. In addition to two TC-90 planes currently on lease to the Philippines, three more that were scheduled to be leased from next March will also be handed over for free.

The Philippines approached Japan with a request to switch from a leasing arrangement to one where it would acquire the naval planes free of charge, according to Japan's Acquisition, Technology & Logistics Agency. Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera and Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana agreed to the deal during talks on Monday at the Clark Freeport Zone, an economic zone northwest of Manila.

Mla Bulletin : Philippine Navy frigate arrives in Malaysia for exercise

The Philippine Navy (PN) Frigate Barko ng Republika ng Pilipinas (BRP) Andres Bonifacio (FF17) berthed at Region 1, Kuantan Naval Base in Malaysia to participate in the Maritime Training Activity (MTA) MALPHI LAUT 20/17 with the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) from October 16 to 25, 2017.


Captain Dennis Rommel G. Quinos, commander of the Naval Task Group (NTG) 80.5, said Philippine Navy personnel involved in the MTA came from different PN units that composed the members of Naval Task Group (NTG) 80.5 that includes the crew of FF17, Agusta Westland 109 Helicopter, Naval Special Operations Team, Marine Special Operation Team, Medical team, Dental team, Naval chaplain and other Port Service Directorate members.

He said the PN contingents were accorded a welcome ceremony by Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) officers of the Naval Region 1 on their arrival in Kuantan Naval Base on Oct. 13, 2017.

The PN contingent is headed by Commodore  Albert A. Mogol (Commander, PN Fleet-Marine Ready Force), Captain Quinos, and Commander Julius E. Valdez paid a courtesy call on Laksamana Muda Datuk Mohd Reza bin Mohd Sany, Commander of the Naval Region 1, RMN, and the Philippine Ambassador to Malaysia, Charles C. Jose.

The NTG is scheduled to participate in the different phases of the bilateral training, conduct reciprocal reception and goodwill games with RMN counterparts.


All photos courtesy of RMN Twitter account (@tldm_rasmi)

Arrival of BRP Andres Bonifacio (FF-17) at Tg Gelang Naval Base, Kuantan, Pahang, Malaysia last Oct 13, 2017.

Oct 16. Opening ceremony of Ex MALPHI 20/17 in Tg.Gelang Naval Base

17 Oct. Sports and Socials

18 Oct. Pre-sailing Briefing.

Probably true, as the one-off design hasn't been updated or with growth path.  Parts availability and cost may also play some part.  And lastly -- OpTempo experiences might not necessarily need the stern 25mm, and instead smaller (.50-cal / 7.62mm)-caliber MGS's with higher ROF might be more suited.

The USN sisters had been uprated and upgraded with short-range SSM and SAMs, while the previous 25mm turrets were replaced with Mk.38 Mod 2 RCWS.  These were essentials, since ten of them are deployed at the high-threat area of Persian Gulf (against Iran).

Vietnam / Re: Decommissioning watch: USCGC Morgenthau (WHEC-722)
« on: October 06, 2017, 08:18:36 AM »
ex-CGC Morgenthau, now Vietnam Coast Guard (CSB 8020)

Photo taken by Paul Hanke and posted at Fred's Place Tribute Group (FB Group)
at Honolulu Harbor, Oct 4, 2017

MTA Malphi-Laut 20/17

- 20th iteration of the PN-RMN annual bilateral exercise, scheduled for Oct. 16-25 at the Kuantan Naval Base in Malaysia

One of the coordination meetings between PN and RMN conducted last August 21, 2017.  Taken from the Twitter feeds of RMN (@tldm_rasmi).

Royal Malaysian Navy‏ @tldm_rasmi Aug 21
#DefenceDiplomacy . Maritime Training Activity MALPHI LAUT 20/2017, an annual bilateral training exercise. Seek to strengthen cooperation.


BRP Andres Bonifacio to join maritime training in Malaysia

Philippine Navy (PN)’s most capable warships, the BRP Andres Bonifacio (FF-17), will be participating in this year’s Maritime Training Activity (MTA) MALPHI LAUT 20-17 slated Oct. 16-25 at the Kuantan Naval Base in Malaysia.

The ship and her crew, comprised of 200 officers and enlisted personnel, will be departing Pier 13 of the Manila South Harbor on Saturday, Navy spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna said Wednesday.
Prior to her attendance to MTA MALPHI LAUT, BRP Andres Bonifacio will first proceed to Maura, Brunei Darussalam to participate in the Golden Jubilee Celebration of the Sultanate.  ...

Maritime Training Activity - Malaysia - Philippines (MTA MALPHI LAUT)

- is an annual bilateral training activity between the Philippine Navy (PN) and Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN), involving ships, aircraft, and special operations units.  A Defense Cooperation Memorandum of Understanding between the Philippines and Malaysia in 1994 enabled this exercise.  PN and the RMN  alternately host the conduct of the activity, and serves to strengthen the relationship and enhance mutual cooperation between the two navies through the development of combined operational doctrines, practices and naval tactics.

The activity usually is broken down into phases, such as administrative-protocol-desk related interactions phase, which includes courtesy calls, protocols, planning, etc; sea phases involving actual ship maneuvers and tactics; and social phases which includes sports competition, tours, civic actions and socio-cultural interactions.

RP-Malaysia joint naval exercise underway | The Philippine Star - 11 April 2007
The Philippines and Malaysia began yesterday their joint annual naval exercises in waters considered a key conduit for al-Qaeda-linked militants, human traffickers and arms smugglers, officials said.

The 10-day exercises, involving six navy ships and about 300 personnel, would allow the navies of the two Southeast Asian countries to communicate faster and jointly catch pirates, suspected terrorists and other outlaws, Philippine Navy Capt. Orwen Cortez said at a press briefing.

The joint naval exercise is dubbed MALPHI-LAUT 10-07. MALPHI is short for Malaysia and Philippines, while laut is a Malay word for sea.

The war games will involve three Malaysian missile corvettes KD Kedah, KD Laksamana Tan Pusmah, and KD Yu. The Philippine Navy BRP Quezon, BRP Artemio Ricarte and BRP Bienvenido Salting are also taking part in the exercise.

Photo taken from

Agreement Signed between RMN, Philippine Navy for improved maritime training procedures (as translated)
LANGKAWI, March 22 (Bernama) - The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) today signed an agreement with the Philippine Navy to improve the third edition of Sea-Sea Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) used in Malphi Laut Maritime Training (MTA) and Maritime Patrol Training Activities.

According to a statement issued by the navy, the RMN said among the improved things were the reforms in maritime training initiatives such as simulation of war and special operations.

"Sea Marine SOP began to be introduced on 23 May 1997 which included referrals to be covered, including planning and things to do during the training as agreed between the two parties including administrative assistance and MTA packages.

"With the rapid development of activities between the two parties, we take the approach to review the contents of the SOP, including the format of activities that have not been available in the old SOP," he said.

The signing ceremony was officiated by Commander of the Navy, Admiral Tan Sri Ahmad Kamarulzaman Ahmad Badaruddin and his Filipina counterpart, Ronald Joseph Mercado.

Commenting further, the change has changed the pattern of training carried out with some improvements seen to be of benefit to both parties.

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