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General Discussion => AFP Modernization & Defense Acquisitions => Topic started by: 40niner on September 23, 2016, 10:49:27 PM

Title: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on September 23, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
Administrator's note: The Frigate Acquisition Project has spawn so many side-discussions it is now impractical to merge all of these threads into a single master thread. For that reason, this thread is being turned into a thread index. Discussions that are central to the procurement of the first frigate will remain here. But the various side discussions will be discussed in the following threads:

Description     Discussion
             
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/hhi.png)     Frigate #1 (This thread)

Frigate #2 (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2492.0)
        
Sub-systems
Confirmed systems    
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/sharpeye-naval-radar.jpg)   Navigation radar (Selected: Sharpeye Radar System) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3244.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1434573566748.jpg)   Tactical Data Link (Link16) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3286.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/p1699494.jpg)   Naval Gun, secondary (Selected: SMASH 30mm gun system) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3246.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SEA-torpdeo_launching_system.jpg)   Shipboard torpedo system (Selected: SEA torpedo launchers) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3247.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/decoy.png)   Decoy launching system (Selected: C-Guard decoy launchers) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3266.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/IPMS_small.jpg)   Damage Control System (Selected: Servowatch integrated ship control system) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3267.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/1651729_-_main.jpg)   PN Anti-Submarine Helicopter Acquisition Project (Selected: AW159 Wildcat) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=281.0)
      
Candidate systems    
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/kvls.png)   Missile System (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3269.0)
      
(http://adroth.ph/afpmodern/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1016743_537910236256479_663810838_n-300x225.jpg)   Naval Gun, primary (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3268.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CIWS.jpg)   Naval Gun, CIWS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3058.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/flagmainmast.png)   Air / Surface Search Radar (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3270.0)
     
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/fcs.jpg)   Fire Control System (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3274.0)
      
(http://www.ultra-os.com/images/torpedo/CRW3596.jpg)   Towed Sonar Array (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=196.0)
      
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/prop.jpg)   Propulsion system (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3287.0)
        
Controversy     DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana’s response to an open letter on the PH Navy’s frigate project (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3224.0)

Magdalo lawmaker urges gov’t scrap order for 2 warships (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2918.0)

Game of the Flag Officers (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2800.0)
        
About Combat Management Systems

(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/S4mPr14.jpg)
     

Thread index: Naval Combat Management Systems (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2366.0)

Naval Shield CMS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2372.0)

Thales Tacticos CMS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2367.0)

PH must learn to produce own CMS, other military equipment (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3035.0)



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After more than a year of study, reviews and evaluations, the Dept of National Defense's Bids and Awards Committee finally released a 2-Stage bid process for two (light) frigates in early October 2013.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/40niner_com/Warships/FFAP_zpsa5a154e7.jpg)

After several postponements on the initial opening of the 1st stage, it was finally conducted on 07 Dec 2013. Seven suppliers/shipyards submitted their bids.

Four were initially declared qualified for the 2nd stage :
        1. Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd. - (DSME) of South Korea
        2. Hyundai Heavy Industries - (HHI) of South Korea
        3. STX Offshore & Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. of South Korea
        4. Navantia of Spain
Meanwhile, three others were disqualified due to flaw in their documents. They, however, filed for motions of reconsideration of the ruling. By April 2014, Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd. (India) and STX France SA (France)'s motions for reconsideration were approved. This brings to six as the total number of approved 1st-stage bidders.  Ultimately, it was only ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems TKMS (Germany) that didn't qualify.

In August, 2014 -: DND ASec P Velez revealed (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/08/10/1355874/dnd-spend-p15-b-two-ships-p2.5-b-ammunition) that due to some possible export restrictions by the gov't of the munition suppliers, it was tentatively decided that the monolithic project will now be split into two portions : about P15.5B (1USD:PHP44.5 = $348M) for the actual ships with some operational fit and P2.5B for ammunition of these ships.

In Nov 2015 -: Dept of Natl Defense (DND) was finally given authority by Pres Aquino (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/546094/news/nation/aquino-authorizes-p44-b-multiyear-defense-contract) to enter into Multi-Year Contracts (MYC), paving way for the FF-AP to move further.  This only actually came after Pres Aquino approved the remainder (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/09/14/1499552/noy-approves-afp-modernization-shopping-list) of the AFP Mod Project Horizon-1 List (2013-17).

By Feb 2016 -: The 2nd Stage of the bid process finally commenced. Updated Technical Specs was released.  The FF-AP was indeed split into Platform Lot and Munitions Lot.  The main FF-AP was transformed into the Platform Lot, which notably deleted the supply of missiles and ammunition from the bid; although weapons launchers remained part of the platform.  Approved budget was set at P16M, which is slightly higher by P 0.5B over the Aug-2014 pronouncement.  Bids were finally opened on March 17, 2016. 

Out of the six qualified bidders, only four submitted their bids.  Daewoo (DSME) and Navantia's bids were declared 'unresponsive'.  GRSE was declared as the Lowest Calculated Bid (LCB), while Hyundai (HHI) was the 2nd LCB.  However, in a Post-Qualification verification conducted later, GRSE's bid was disqualified (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/06/30/1598080/dnd-disqualifies-lowest-bidder-p16-b-navy-frigate-project) due to financial issues (NFCC).

Hyundai, which had submitted the second lowest bid, passed the post-qualification -- and on 18-Aug, the new DND Sec Delfin Lorenzana approved the Notice of Award for HHI to deliver the two frigates based on the timeline on the bid. Contract was set to be signed in late September.

Image of the Notice-of-Award (NOA) from PhilGEPS :
(http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/355/mHtHUq.jpg)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on September 23, 2016, 10:52:17 PM
Hyundai wins USD337 million frigate contract from Philippine Navy (http://www.janes.com/article/63401/hyundai-wins-usd337-million-frigate-contract-from-philippine-navy)
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
02 September 2016
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South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has formally received a notice of award from the Philippine government to build two new frigates for the Philippine Navy (PN).

The notice, which indicates a contract price of PHP15,744,571,584 (USD337 million), was signed by Secretary of National Defense Delfin Lorenzana and addressed to the senior general manager for HHI's special and naval shipbuilding division, Ki Yeong Sung.

The Philippine Department of National Defense (DND) first launched the two-ship frigate acquisition programme in October 2013 to meet the PN's long-range maritime surveillance, patrol, and interdiction capabilities.

 ...

The PN's weapons wishlist for the warships is currently unknown but an updated list of requirements for the frigate acquisition programme released by the DND in early 2016 calls for no degradation of anti-air and anti-surface capabilities at Sea State 5, and no degradation of anti-submarine warfare capability at Sea State 4.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on September 25, 2016, 04:18:09 PM
ADAS2016, will we see a contract signing?
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on September 26, 2016, 10:47:31 PM
http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=1&rid=926455

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DND finalizing contract for Navy's 2 missile-firing frigates

MANILA, Sept. 27 (PNA) -- The contract for the Philippine Navy's two missile-armed frigates is now being finalized, Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong said Monday.

Once the contract is finalized, it will be signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and the duly authorized representative of the winning proponent, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), he added.

"Notice of Award (NOA) was formally served to HHI last Aug. 4. Once the formal contract is signed, it will be followed by a Notice to Proceed, which will be formally served to the proponent," Andolong said.

"NOA was given to HHI as GRSE (Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd) was post-disqualified after it was determined that their Net Financial Capacity was insufficient and therefore not in compliance with Republic Act 9184 (Government Procurement Policy Board)," he added.

GRSE along with HHI was one of the six proponents in the DND's frigate program.

In the NOA, HHI offered PHP15,744,571,884 for the two frigates.

The DND has allocated the sum of PHP18 billion for the acquisition of two missile-capable frigates, with PHP16 billion going to the construction of the ships and PHP2 billion for its munitions.

The ships will be armed with a variety of sensors and weapons capable of detecting and neutralizing air, surface, and submarine threats.

It will be also capable of electronic warfare.

Aside from this, the frigates, according to their technical specifications, must be capable of performing extended maritime patrol with an embarked naval helicopter and maritime surveillance through air-and-surface-search radar, sound navigation and ranging (sonar) for sub-surface search.

It will be armed and fitted a variety of air-to-air, anti-ship, and anti-submarine weapons. (PNA)
BNB/PFN
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on October 23, 2016, 09:13:01 PM
http://m.yna.co.kr/kr/contents/?cid=AKR20161024048000003&mobile

Self explanatory.

(http://img.yonhapnews.co.kr/etc/inner/KR/2016/10/24/AKR20161024048000003_01_i.jpg)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on October 23, 2016, 10:48:17 PM
Announcement from Hyundai Heavy Industries:

http://english.hhi.co.kr/news/view?idx=600&currentPage=1

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Hyundai Heavy Industries Wins an Order to Build Two 2,600 ton Frigates for the Philippine Navy


Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the world’s largest shipbuilder, announced today that it signed a contract to build two 2,600 ton frigates with the Department of National Defense, Republic of the Philippines.

The signing ceremony held in Manila, Philippines, was attended by Mr. Chung Ki-sun, executive vice president of Corporate Planning Office of HHI, Mr. Delfin Lorenzana, Philippines’ Defense Secretary and Mr. Kim Jai- shin, Korean Ambassador to Philippines and other guests.

The frigates will be designed to be a smaller light combatant and successor to the Incheon class frigate which is now in active service for ROKN tailored to the requirement of the Philippine Navy with applying optimized range of good marine standard under naval rule from Lloyd Register, classification society.

The 107 meter frigates to be propelled with CODAD (Combined Diesel and Diesel) propulsion system with maximum speed of 25knots can cover a 4,500 nautical miles range at cruising speed of 15 knots. The naval vessels will inherit the enhanced survivability, seakeeping and maneuvering capability of her mother ship operable up to Sea State 5.

The frigates heavily armed with missiles, torpedo, guns and sensors controlled by the latest combat management system are capable of conducting Anti-Air Warfare, Anti-Surface Warfare, Anti-Submarine Warfare and Electronic Warfare. The frigates are scheduled to be handed starting from 2020.

Since the delivery of the first Korean-built frigate ROKS Ulsan in 1980, HHI has played a pivotal role in the modernization of ROK Navy designing major warships. And evidently it now expands its service to worldwide navies with advanced, affordable warships.

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on October 24, 2016, 07:27:31 AM
Rather disappointing on the 30mm DS30M / Seahawk mounting on hangar. That system is a remote weapon system much like the  BAE Mk.38 Mod.2 25mm. It's not a CIWS and can't be used to shoot down missiles. It's primarily purpose is for inner defense against small crafts. But by putting it on the roof top means it would be unable to depress the gun much (one of the reasons why a pair is usually installed on each sides).

Well, it's still early days. Maybe they will change their minds.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on October 24, 2016, 10:07:21 AM
From Jane's Defense:

http://www.janes.com/article/64864/hyundai-discloses-further-details-of-philippine-navy-s-new-frigates

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Hyundai discloses further details of Philippine Navy's new frigates
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
24 October 2016

Key Points

Hyundai Heavy Industries has revealed further details of the two frigates that it will build for the Philippine Navy
The platform is slightly smaller than anticipated, but said to inherit main design features of South Korea's Incheon class

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has given further details of the two frigates that it will be constructing for the Philippine Navy (PN).

The details were given in a media release on 24 October announcing that the contract to build the ships has been formally signed with Philippine defence secretary Delfin Lorenzana. HHI received a notice of the PHP15,744,571,584 (USD311 million) award earlier in 2016.

The company was previously reported to have won the contract with a design based on the company's HDF-3000 multipurpose frigate design, which features an overall length of 114.3 m, and has been used as the basis for the Republic of Korea Navy's (RoKN's) Incheon (FFX-I)-class guided-missile frigates.

HHI has since disclosed in its media release that the platform will instead feature overall length of 107 m, a standard displacement of about 2,600 tonnes, and an operational survivability up to Sea State 5. The frigate has however been described by HHI as one that inherits main design features of the Incheon class, albeit with a lighter displacement.

The ship will feature a combined diesel and diesel (CODAD) propulsion system, and feature a maximum speed of 25 kt, with a standard range of 4,500 n miles at 15 kt.

HHI did not disclose in writing specific details of the platform's weapon systems, saying only that the frigates will be "heavily armed with missiles, torpedo, guns and sensors", and that they will be capable of anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine and electronic warfare.

However a computer generated image of the platform accompanying the media release shows an eight-cell vertical launching system (VLS) installed at the forward section, just behind the platform's primary weapon that will most likely be a 76 mm naval gun.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on October 24, 2016, 04:20:50 PM
The missing part from Janes's article. I will remove if required as this is for paid subscribers, which I have access.

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Also pictured amid-ship are four (two twin) anti-surface missile launchers mounted diagonally, and two triple torpedo tubes, each located on the port and starboard sides.

A remote-controlled weapon system (RWCS) turret is depicted at the platform's stern section, facing its flight deck, while a couple of what appears to be the MBDA-SIMBAD anti-air defence system turrets are located above the ship's bridge, one each to the left and right of its fire-control radar pedestal. This sensor will likely be the STIR or STING series of electro-optic fire-control directors from Thales.

Another sensor that may have been depicted in the image is either the NS100 or NS200 electronically scanned array (AESA) from the same company.

The ship can accommodate one helicopter on its flight deck, and two rigid hull inflatable boats mounted on davits found on the port and starboard sides.

The frigates are scheduled to be handed over to the PN from 2020, said HHI.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on October 24, 2016, 05:22:39 PM
^ All of those items are already shared on public blogs, so I don't think that new information has been added.

BTW, @Lionflyer -- which variant of the NS100 is currently installed with RSN's LMV?

For the secondary gun placement, the MSI's location may just be a placeholder for a future CIWS.  Lots of speculations in this aspect.  What seemed to be obvious, though, is the shift in caliber from the existing 25mm to 30mm.  Also -- only a single unit was required in the bid (budget-constraint).
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: r3mu511 on October 24, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
@chief, over in pdff @raider had found this article a couple of years ago: http://www.maritiemnederland.com/nieuws/singapore-launching-customer-voor-nieuwe-thales-radar/item1196

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Thales Netherlands is an amount of more than 52 million radar systems provide the Navy of Singapore. According to a letter to the Ministers Frans Timmermans (Foreign Affairs) and Lilianne Ploumen (Foreign Trade and Development) this summer sent to parliament.

It is according to the letter to eight radar systems as NS-106, which can detect and track both air and sea targets. The NS-100 family 'radar systems is provided with new technology that makes it possible to let the sensor quickly "reconfiguration", by letting switch function. Singapore is the launching customer for the radar.

according to the article singapore will use the ns106 variant...
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 24, 2016, 08:54:57 PM
From: https://twitter.com/del_lorenzana

(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/signing.jpg)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 30, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
National Defense Chief Signs Contract for two Brand New Frigates for the Navy

https://www.facebook.com/philippinenavy/posts/10154153128352956

The Secretary of National Defense, Hon. Delfin Lorenzana, graced on Oct. 24, 2016 the ceremonial contract signing of the Frigate Acquisition Project, as the principal signatory of the contract together with officials/delegates from Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) (Korea).

The project involves the construction and delivery of two unit of Frigate to the Philippine Navy. The signing of the contract signals the start of the construction and is the culmination of the long and tedious procurement process for the project.

As a background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13, 2016 with the amount of Three Hundred Thirty Six Million Nine Hundred Twelve Thousand US Dollars(USD 336,912,000.00) or Fifteen Billion Seven Hundred Forty Four Million Five Hundred Seventy One and Five Hundred Eighty Four Pesos (Php 15,744,571,584.00).

Witnessing the event were Ambassador of South Korea to the Philippines Jae Shin Kim; Assistant Secretary for Acquisition, Installation and Logistics Jesus Rey Avilla; Undersecretary for Financial Management Josue Gaverza Jr; Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics Maj. Gen. Job Yucoco and his assistant, Brig Gen. Arnulfo G Rafanan; Senior Military Assistant Brig Gen. Arnel Duco; and Philippine Navy Vice Commander Rear Adm. Rafael Mariano. On the other hand, distinguished members of HHI delegation included the Senior Vice President/Owner HHI, Ki Sun Chung; Senior Sales Officers Ki Young Sung and Jae Rak Kim; Technical Sales Officer, Unchul Kim; Project Consultant, Myeongok Han; and Local Representative, Yolanda Lim Gamba.

Also present in the signing were the Chief of Naval Staff, Read Adm. Gaudencio C Collado; Commander of Philippine Fleet, Rear Adm. Bayani Gaerlan; Commander of Western Command, Vice Adm. Ronald Joseph Mercado; Philippine Fleet Commander, Rear Adm. Bayani Gaerlan; Naval Sea Systems Commander Virme Torralba; and Project Management Team Chairman, Commo. Robert Empedrad and members.


The activity is of utter significance to the Department of National Defense and to the Philippine Navy, in particular. It is the single most expensive project yet that will be signed by the current administration. The project, likewise, is the biggest project yet for the PN. Most importantly, this marks the entry of the PN into its quest to be a strong and credible navy by year 2020.

The acquisition of the two brand new and modern Frigates serves as a “Big Step” in realizing a once a dream of a world class and well equipped Philippine Navy, capable and credible in protecting its people, and the sovereignty of the land and the interest of its national territory.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on November 19, 2016, 03:16:49 AM
On a related note -- without overly knowing yet the details and technicalities of both builds -- Does it appear on paper -- that PN's FF-AP (~$168M/unit) is relatively a good deal compared with (Indonesia) TNI-AL's PKR10514's contract price of $220M/unit (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/04/17/indonesian-navy-set-have-domestically-built-frigate-2016.html)? 
According to Jane's article released two days ago...  (http://www.janes.com/article/65579/negotiations-under-way-on-additional-equipment-package-for-indonesia-s-pkr-frigate) :
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* Damen has been contracted by Indonesia to procure a range of 'fitted for but not with' systems
* Specific equipments include MBDA's VL Mica point defence missile system and its MM 40 Block 3 Exocet anti-ship missile system, and the Rheinmetall Millennium 35 mm cannon
...
While the PKR vessels are being delivered with a core mission system supplied by Thales Nederland - including the TACTICOS combat management system, SMART-S Mk 2 surveillance radar, STIR 1.2 EO Mk 2 radar/electro-optical tracking system, and Kingklip hull-mounted sonar - the only weapon system included in the original contract was a single Leonardo (Oto Melara) 76/62 Super Rapid gun. However, space, weight, and service provisions were included in the SIGMA 10514 design to enable the retrofit of additional 'fitted for but not with' (FFBNW) weapon systems, including a point-defence missile system, a surface-to-surface missile system, and a close-in weapon system.
One thing -- ToT and modular construction is one of the premium that TNI-AL is willing to pay (on behalf of PT-PAL).
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: horge on November 21, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
On a related note -- without overly knowing yet the details and technicalities of both builds -- Does it appear on paper -- that PN's FF-AP (~$168M/unit) is relatively a good deal compared with (Indonesia) TNI-AL's PKR10514's contract price of $220M/unit (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/04/17/indonesian-navy-set-have-domestically-built-frigate-2016.html)?

Setting aside the bang and focusing on the buck:
Indonesia went with a particular sort of multi-year export-credit financing.
Easier terms usually means a larger principal.

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One thing -- ToT and modular construction is one of the premium that TNI-AL is willing to pay (on behalf of PT-PAL).

I'll note that ToT didn't quite go as far as the MOU seemed to originally outline.
Some of the SIGMA modules were built at Vlissingen, not Persero.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on November 24, 2016, 06:00:44 AM
http://www.janes.com/article/65735/shrink-wrapped-new-generation-tacticos-packaged-up-for-indonesia-s-pkr-frigate

This would be relevant. I won't post the whole article here because of copyright issues but extract a few key sections.

Suffice to say, ToT is a non-trivial task. The receiving party needs to be of sufficient maturity and capability before considering this option.

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As a part of the PKR contract, Thales Nederland has forged an industrial co-operation with Indonesian electronics and IT company PT Len Industri (Persero), which includes a significant transfer of technology. Thales naval marketing and sales director in Indonesia Hennie Everlo explained, "Next to the extensive technology transfer we have subcontracted PT Len for three specific software modules in TACTICOS. That means the company is now developing their skills on the basis of our CMS technology."


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"This was the first time we have undertaken a project with DSNS for a full modular build," explained Edie Heuvelink, Thales Nederland's PKR programme manager. "Ship module 5 [built by DSNS in Vlissingen] was the most interesting for us because it included the CIC below decks and the SMART-S Mk 2 and STIR 1.2 EO Mk 2 radars above decks.

"Our TACTICOS system was integrated in the CIC, the radars installed onboard the mast structures, and we performed approximately 80% of integration in the Netherlands over a six-month period from the start of 2015. The whole module was then shipped to Indonesia for consolidation with the remaining ship modules at PT PAL.

"We did the remaining 20% integration in Indonesia. This included all the other equipment - such as the 76/62 Super Rapid gun and hull-mounted sonar - that was not fitted in module 5, various alignments and calibrations on the ship, followed by harbour and sea acceptance tests.".
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on December 02, 2016, 09:37:29 PM
http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=1&rid=945396

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Letter of credit for 2 missile-firing frigates being finalized - Navy chief

MANILA, Dec. 3 (PNA) -- The letter of credit (LOC) for the country's first two missile-firing frigates, whose contract was won by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is now being finalized, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command, Vice Adm. Roland Joseph Mercado has said.

"As far as I know, they are now finalizing the terms in the LOC, for the frigate project. That's the only update I could give for now," he said in an interview with the Philippine News Agency (PNA).

An LOC is a letter from a bank guaranteeing that a buyer's payment to a seller will be received on time and for the correct amount. In case the buyer is unable to make payment for the purchase, the bank will be required to cover the full or remaining amount of the purchase.

Mercado is the same officer who headed the technical working group that came up with the specifications of the country's first-ever missile-capable frigates.

On Oct. 24, National Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana formally inked the contract for the Frigate Acquisition Program, together with officials and delegates from South Korea's HHI. The signing ceremony took place at the PN's headquarters in Naval Station Andrada, Roxas Blvd., Manila.

The project involves the construction and delivery of two missile-firing frigates to the PN.

The signing of the contract signals the start of the construction and is the culmination of the long and tedious procurement process for the project.

As background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13 with the amount of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.

The project is worth PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion allocated for the acquisition of assorted weapon systems and munitions. (PNA)
CVL/PFN

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Ayoshi on August 31, 2017, 01:12:31 AM
Shared in FB honeypot..
Servowatch to supply IPMS capability for two HHI-built Frigates for Philippines Navy | Navy Recognition (https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/august-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5532-servowatch-to-supply-ipms-capability-for-two-hhi-built-frigates-for-philippines-navy.html) - 30 August 2017
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Servowatch, a leading supplier of advanced integrated ship control systems, is very proud to announce they have again been selected by Hyundaito supply theirIntegrated Platform Management System (IPMS). This down select will see Servowatch partnering with Hyundai Electric to provide its IPMS for installation into the Philippine Navy’s Future Frigate programme to be built in Hyundai’s Ulsan facility; the largest shipyard in the world.

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Servowatch Systems’ scope of supply comprises an IPMS control and monitoring package for the vessels’ propulsion plant, electric power plant, auxiliary/ancillary system. Battle Damage Control System (BDCS) and On-board Training System (OBTS) are also to be included in scope of IPMS.

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The UK-headquartered company has invested heavily in the design and development of the next generation IPMS systems. Designed to commercial or military standards, principally for naval or larger complex commercial vessels, Servowatch offers a range of bespoke solutions to provide propulsion, electrical and auxiliary plant management from multifunction workstations with automation programmed into the system.

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http://www.servowatch.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=83&cntnt01returnid=61

Servowatch secures a second project with Hyundai. This time to supply its world class IPMS capability for two new build Philippines Frigates.

Category: 2017
 

Hyundai's HDF-3000 FFX-I Frigate is the basis for design of the Philippine Navy’s vessels

Servowatch, a leading supplier of advanced integrated ship control systems, is very proud to announce they have again been selected by Hyundai to supply their Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS). This down select will see Servowatch partnering with Hyundai Electric to provide its IPMS for installation into the Philippine Navy’s Future Frigate programme to be built in Hyundai’s Ulsan facility; the largest shipyard in the world.

The new frigates are expected to be a variant on Hyundai’s own HDF-3000 FFX-I Multipurpose Frigate. According to specifications provided by Hyundai, the design features a length of 114m, a beam of 14m and a hull draught of 4m. The platform has a standard displacement of approximately 3,000 tonnes and can accommodate engines in combined diesel (CODAD) or gas (CODOG) machinery arrangements.
 
Servowatch Systems’ scope of supply comprises an IPMS control and monitoring package for the vessels’ propulsion plant, electric power plant, auxiliary/ancillary system. Battle Damage Control System (BDCS) and On-board Training System (OBTS) are also to be included in scope of IPMS.
 
"With vessels increasing in complexity while simultaneously reducing crew sizes, systems integration is key to ensuring the functionality of critical equipments. Servowatch has introduced its most powerful IPMS solution allowing more COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) product integration. It reduces platform cost, integration time and commissioning, whilst retaining the survivability and power of the original Servowatch product," says: Wayne Ross, Chief Executive Officer, Servowatch.
 
"We are delighted to have been down selected again to work with Hyundai in Korea, this time for their Philippine Frigate project. Not only are we looking forward to building on our growing relationship with Hyundai’s own teams of experts to enhance the capability, service and support that Servowatch delivers to the Navy’s around the world, we are also looking forward to further growing our relationship with the Royal Philippine’s Navy."
 
"This second project win further cements our relationship with Hyundai and continues to demonstrate that Servowatch has what it takes to compete successfully in large scale naval projects," says Andrew Burns, Sales & Marketing Director, Servowatch.
 
The UK-headquartered company has invested heavily in the design and development of the next generation IPMS systems. Designed to commercial or military standards, principally for naval or larger complex commercial vessels, Servowatch offers a range of bespoke solutions to provide propulsion, electrical and auxiliary plant management from multifunction workstations with automation programmed into the system.
 
 
Servowatch Contact Details
Phone: +44 (0) 1621 855562
Fax: +44 (0) 1621 851521
Email: sales@servowatch.com
Web Site:www.servowatch.com
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on September 01, 2017, 08:06:39 AM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.

There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.


Retreacted for now. New info says the PN just came from talks with HHI in Korea. Guess they are with the program.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on September 01, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
The Royal Malaysian Navy did not want to have the SENIT CMS on their LCS (having the TACITCOS, COSYS110-M1, Nautis-F, IPN already in service). But Boustead went ahead with it anyway.  8)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on September 01, 2017, 08:08:42 PM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.

There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.

Take care with that scuttlebutt.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: girder on September 02, 2017, 09:19:49 AM
Discussion on equipment for 2 PH Navy missile frigates underway (http://news.mb.com.ph/2017/09/02/discussion-on-equipment-for-2-ph-navy-missile-frigates-underway/)

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Discussions are ongoing to determine what equipment and major systems are to be installed in two of the country’s first-ever missile-capable frigates, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado said.

“The frigate project is now on the planning stage. Discussions are ongoing to agree on equipment and major systems to be installed. After this, construction will start,” Mercado said in a text message to the Philippine News Agency (PNA) Friday when asked for updates on the Armed Forces’ modernization program.

Asked if this stage includes selection of weapons, propulsion and sensor systems for the two frigates, Mercado replied, “This stage involves everything about the ship.”

The Navy chief, however, did not give specifics on when the discussions would conclude.

Mercado headed the technical working group that came up with the specifications of the country’s first-ever missile-capable frigates.

Meanwhile, Department of National Defense (DND) spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said the implementation of the country’s frigate acquisition project has already begun and is proceeding as scheduled.

“Construction will commence in accordance with the timetable,” he added.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on September 02, 2017, 05:50:50 PM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.

There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.

As much as PN tries 'to protest' -- HHI is already backed with the signed contract (with DND*) to deliver the minimum specifications on the written document.  There are some rumored twists to this, but those are only in murmurs and low voices not above breathing noise.  HHI is under the nose of it's financial backers to churn out profit wherever it can.  This is all business transaction to them, shrewd or otherwise.

One basic problem in retrospect -- is of not being allowed by the procurement law to specifically use actual brands or brand-baselines on bid specifications.  We have had discussion that DSOM had already took care of this before the PNoy, but reversion took place -- and thus this is the one sum of that undoing. 
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Mr. Pitz on September 02, 2017, 06:07:31 PM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.

There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.


Retreacted for now. New info says the PN just came from talks with HHI in Korea. Guess they are with the program.

If so, will the chance of having subsystems as PN wanted  get materialized?

In respect also with the depreciable peso, is there any consideration that the contract price getting increased?
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Red Justice on September 05, 2017, 08:43:02 AM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.

There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.

Take care with that scuttlebutt.

I agree be careful with the scuttlebutt, rumors and unsupported information.

Why will be the PN raving mad? As I explained on Facebook the project will start with the PN TWG to which it will specify the specs. Now in cases where the specs set will be generic, the supplier will suggest what are the options to make the specs to be more specific to the need of the buyer.

Its just like this, you want a bicycle but you did not specify what do you want in the bicycle so the vendor will tell you here is your options. From there once you say this is what you want you know agree to purchase.

Take note if there will be some changes it will not be HHI talking or agree with DND. HHI will talk to PN since the buyer of the ships is PN not DND. Once the purchase contract is signed off between HHI and PN wala ng galawan. Pag may manipulation na mangyari plain and simple breach of contract yun.

Now kung natapos na yung barko bago i-release yan sa PN there will be testing and there will be a record of compliance and to state as indicated on the contract the ships meet the spec required by the customer (which is PN, not DND).

Ano ba ang trabaho ng DND sa program na ito? They are to approve program and allocate budget (only when they are satisfied with the CAPEX justification provided by PN) na kung above sa approval nila aabot sa Presidente. Take note why will the DND spend tax payers money to shove it to PN's throat and say "ayan gamitin niyo." 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1422750781144098/


From my fb reply - I have been dealing with HHI since 2014, our company provides them with valves for the Marine Industry, we have dealt with MTU and Wartsilla which are also in the Marine industry. Anyone of you familiar with PPAP? Before a new product can be launch this is the required documents. PPAP stands for Production Parts Approval Process. The project team are composed of members from both sides PN & HHI, there are elements that needs to be satisfied in order for the project to proceed, one of the element is Team Feasibility & Commitment. Mind you no one will sign this document if none is in agreement, for this document signify that its a mutual understanding. Specs will always come from the buyer which is PN and HHI will meet the buyer specs. Now in the event the supplier cannot meet customer spec most often some customers are unsure that its what they want (it happened to us before when dealing with Cummins on their engines they seem to change spec on the go) there will be counter proposal coming from vendor and will be subject for review by customer and again will undergo a process called DVP&R (Design Verification Process & Reports) now if this revise specs still meets customer requirement to a certain point (be reminded Design process is not as easy as writing a sentence) program can still proceed with TFC. It does not end there for there will be a series of testing to be done, does it meet capability required, does it pass testing, each major component will be reviewed thru PFMEA to review the risk and how to mitigate those risk plus there will be Control Plan in place. Years back the Navy underwent ISO9001 certification this is to keep up with current trends and with the automotive industry standard TS16949 being adopted by almost every industry including Marine, the biggest risk to be mitigated here is the lost of life. Which is why am not throwing any kibosh items here. Even pressure from the powers to be is very unlikely to sway a project leader.

I have generated PPAP to multiple Marine Industry companies. I sign on these TFCs, submit reports to them to make sure it conforms to spec (ie blue prints/drawings or test requirements).

Please consider what I shared to you as my work experience, I work with customer design engineers, supplier engineers and mind you I cannot do any shortcuts with them, heck I even work with my supplier engineers and they too cannot just give me bad parts without me or my co-workers detecting it.

So we might as well give these people the opportunity to work on this FF project. Btw its seldom for the President of the company (in this case FOIC) to head a TWG. Its delegated to a Project Director. Keep that in mind before making conclusions

To add further -
The intermediate document that you are pertaining to is to say that the project has been reviewed and endorsed to higher authorities for approval. Process could be TWG has concluded that the project is acceptable based on capability and specifications, it will be submitted to FOIC for review and final deliberation (if needed), FOIC will then generate a CAPEX request for the $$$ is way above his approving powers. FOIC signs off on CAPEX request to be endorsed to the SND for approval, if the $$$ limit is above then it will go to the President himself to sign the CAPEX. This practice is pretty much standard as part of SOCS. FOIC's signature is key to say yes I want this, buy me this.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 20, 2017, 07:47:18 AM
Because the internet is forever

Time to capture this so that folks can contrast this with what actually comes out. Two dates to note:

October 20, 2017 (US Pacific Time): When this article came out

June 2017: The date of a critical conference that key folks were not invited to . . . resulting in memes being created in social media.


The following was posted on the forum's FB extension here:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1463320303753812&ref=m_notif&notif_t=like

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 21, 2017, 01:06:35 AM
From the forum's FB extension: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1463320303753812/?comment_id=1463907067028469&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R"%7D

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 21, 2017, 01:31:46 AM
One of the current bones of contention

What are Combat Management Systems?

The Philippine Navy Frigate Acquisition Project, specifically Supplemental Bid Bulletin #DND/PN-FAP-16-01, described the PN's preferred CMS as follows:

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 21, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
From: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1463320303753812/?comment_id=1464404073645435&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R2"%7D

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 24, 2017, 02:01:25 PM
Press release from Kelvin Hughes. Reproduced in its entirety.

SHARPEYE™ RADAR SYSTEM FOR PHILIPPINE NAVY FAP
23 Oct 2017

https://www.kelvinhughes.com/news/300-sharpeye-radar-system-for-philippine-navy-fap

Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) have contracted Kelvin Hughes to supply I Band and E/F Band SharpEye™ radars.

The Philippine Navy Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) was awarded to HHI in October 2016 to build two 2,600 ton frigates for hand over starting in 2020. Kelvin Hughes has announced it is to supply HHI two SharpEye™ navigation radars along with multifunction bridge radar displays for the Philippine Navy FAP.

This follows the announcement by Kelvin Hughes in September that HHI contracted the company to supply the Integrated Navigation Bridge System (INBS) for The Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) Maritime Sustainment Capability (MSC) Vessel.

The new naval vessels for the Philippine Navy are expected to have enhanced survivability, seakeeping and manoeuvring capability and be operable in up to Sea State 5 and also have stealth characteristics. The vessels (hull numbers P159 and P160) will be further complemented by the low Radar Cross Section (RCS) design of the upmast SharpEye™ radar sensor carbon fibre housing and antenna turning unit. What’s more the reduced probability of intercept by ESM equipment characteristic inherent from the SharpEye™’s 300W low power output further aligns to the requirements derived from the HHI HDF-3000 frigate design.

SharpEye Naval Radar

With its solid-state technology, SharpEye™ radar systems deliver an advanced pulse-compressed Doppler navigation and situational awareness capability that can provide early warning not only of the presence of larger vessels but also small targets and asymmetric threats with a low RCS such as RHIBs, small wooden boats, USVs and jet skis. Operating in I and E/F Band, the new radar will enable the ships to distinguish between genuine targets and environmental clutter even in the most adverse weather conditions.

SharpEye™ transmits a low power, patented pulse sequence enabling short, medium and long range radar returns to be detected simultaneously. Doppler processing of radar returns provides coherent information concerning a target’s velocity and ensures the detection of very small and slow moving objects. Through a series of electronic filters, SharpEye™ is able to distinguish between targets of interest and clutter whilst customisable waveforms can be configured for specific threats and to detect specific targets such UAVs, drones and helicopters.

Radar Display

With its solid state electronics, and therefore no magnetron, SharpEye™ is highly reliable and requires no routine maintenance. Moreover, with an upmast transceiver, there is no waveguide to compromise citadel integrity and signal loss is reduced.

Mark Butler, Regional Sales Manager at Kelvin Hughes said: “SharpEye™ is ideally suited to frigates, corvettes and OPVs operating in high clutter conditions and for navies undertaking modernisation programmes where the upmast equipment contributes to the stealth or RCS reduction requirements. I am extremely pleased that Kelvin Hughes is working with HHI on this project.”

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 24, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
For reference when the project actually comes out.

The following was shared on the forum's FB extension.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1467451506674025/

This thesis, however, hinges on the assumption that the CMS that survives the "Hanwha Thales" split is Hanwha and not Thales.

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Background on the Hanwha-Thales split.

Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
SEOUL, KOREA
28 July 2016 - 11:00am

http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales

Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.

When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.

Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).

Hanwha Thales is the nation’s first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics’ defense unit and France’s Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.

Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales’ decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Manokski on October 25, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
All the naysayers relying on second hand information and speculation is getting old. 
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 25, 2017, 02:36:12 PM
From the P-160 thread on the FB extension:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1467457336673442/?comment_id=1467639059988603&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 25, 2017, 09:09:21 PM
From: http://www.dnd.gov.ph/transparency/FOI%20Manual/StatusoftheFrigateAcquisitionProject(20October2017).pdf

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on October 30, 2017, 05:20:23 PM
Lots of lessons are to be / being learned for this FAP.  While it was understandable that PN was trying to initially grope in the dark during bid definition stage, the succeeding stage 2 (via the SBB amendments did try to address some inadequacy.  Baseline established.  It was perceived that a set of supposed sub-components were also included during the submission and opening of bids -- in order to established if such incorporated sub-systems were compliant with the baseline.  The bone of contention lies there.  Substitution could possibly lead to non-compliance, and actually -- possibly violating the procurement law.

The current US Navy FFG(X) procurement process give a valuable lesson, including those from their own 'flawed' LCS program.  The platform is calling for a parent design which had been constructed and demonstrated at sea -- rather than a developmental design.  This approach lessens the time involved in testing and debugging -- thus having the platform operational at an early date.
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Another basic US procurement approach is the provision of Govt Furnished Equipment (GFE) for the platforms.  PN could have had de-coupled the combat and warfare systems from the platform, so that it will have the ultimate control on which subsystems and integration it wants.  Separate acquisitions with long-term and multiple platform outlook could have been done.

Monday morning quarterbacking is rather easy...  But is the game really over?!
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on October 31, 2017, 02:10:12 AM
Another important piece of the puzzle that seems to have been ignored in all this noise:

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/press-release/thales-exercises-its-put-option-hanwha-thales-htc#

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THALES EXERCISES ITS PUT OPTION IN HANWHA THALES (HTC)

27.07.2016
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The jointly-owned company Hanwha Thales was created in 2000 by Samsung and Thales (Euronext Paris: HO) to develop the defence electronics in Korea. In June 2015, Samsung sold its defence related businesses to Hanwha. In this context, Hanwha and Thales negotiated a put/call option on Thales' shares in their jointly owned company.

Considering Hanwha and Thales respective ambitions in the Korean market today, Thales has decided to exercise its put option, for all of its shares, amounting to 50% of Hanwha Thales equity, at the price of KW288 billion (approximately €230 million). Once governmental approvals are obtained and the sale is completed, Thales shall record a cash inflow of approximately €200 million. In 2015, Hanwha Thales contributed €10 million to the EBIT of Thales.

Thales and Hanwha are keen to pursue their cooperation in multiple areas. Thales is a partner of trust of Korea and the Korean industry, in both civil and military domains. 

*emphasis by me

Just because a JV company splits their legal personalities, does not spell an automatic end to any partnerships.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LAT@TMW on October 31, 2017, 05:15:12 PM
"Just because a JV company splits their legal personalities, does not spell an automatic end to any partnerships."

Would it mean some people indeed pushed the panic button too early? Would this mean that Thales is still our FF's CMS?
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on November 01, 2017, 08:06:56 AM
D&S 2017: C-Guard to protect Philippine frigates
1st November 2017 - 12:11 GMT | by Beth Maundrill in London RSS

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-news/ds-2017-c-guard-protect-philippine-frigates/

Denmark-based Terma Group will equip the Philippine Navy’s future frigates with its C-Guard decoy launchers, which will assist in the protection of the strategic assets.

The company will deliver a total of four launchers, two per frigate. Each launcher has six tubes, the DL-6T Launcher variant, and uses 130mm NATO decoy rounds to protect against threats including RF, IR, dual seeker and torpedo threats.

The C-Guard solution has been thoroughly evaluated by the Philippine Navy.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on November 01, 2017, 08:24:01 PM
Where we ought to be by now

SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-05

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on November 02, 2017, 08:16:31 AM
From: https://youtu.be/oFLqNdUsaso

Day 3 at MADEX 2017, the International Maritime Defense Industry Exhibition in Busan, South Korea. The event is held during "Marine Week 2017" and takes place in conjunction with Sea Port 2017 and KORMARINE 2017.

See time index 3:22. "Currently being operated by ROK navy . . . Malaysian training vessel . . . next generation Philippine frigate"

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on November 03, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
SEA to Provide Torpedo Launcher Systems for Thai, Philippines & Malaysian Navies

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/november-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5679-sea-to-provide-torpedo-launcher-systems-for-thai-philippines-malaysian-navies.html
 
Cohort company SEA will look to build upon growing demand in South East Asia for its torpedo and decoy launcher systems when it highlights the capability at the Defense and Security exhibition in Ban Mai, Thailand, on November 6-9.
        
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SEA has recently won an order to provide Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) in South Korea with Torpedo Launcher Systems (TLS) for two new frigates being built for the Philippines Navy and is also engaged in providing TLS and weapons handling systems for a new class of Combatant Ships under construction for Malaysia. This follows the supply of a TLS for the Royal Thai Navy’s latest frigate, which was built by DSME in South Korea.

SEA is looking to build upon this pedigree with the supply of a triple trainable deck mounted system for a further frigate under consideration by the Royal Thai Navy. In addition, there are several more opportunities in frigate new build and refurbishment projects throughout SE Asia.

One of the major benefits of SEA’s TLS is that they can be configured to fire any NATO standard light weight torpedo, enabling operators to benefit from the flexibility of choosing the best weapon independently and the option of re-configuring during the life of the ship.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on November 22, 2017, 06:13:55 AM
As confirmed by Janes, with their own independent fact checking.

http://www.janes.com/article/75871/hyundai-selects-turkish-30-mm-naval-gun-system-for-philippine-navy-frigates

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Hyundai selects Turkish 30 mm naval gun system for Philippine Navy frigates

Ridzwan Rahmat - IHS Jane's Navy International
21 November 2017

Key Points
  • The Philippine Navy’s new frigates will each feature a 30 mm gun system from Aselsan
  • The Turkish company is gaining a foothold in the region, and is also in talks with the Philippine government regarding further orders

The Philippine Navy’s (PN’s) new frigates will be equipped with the SMASH 30 mm remote controlled stabilised naval gun system from Turkish defence systems provider, Aselsan, an official from the company confirmed with Jane’s on 20 November.

Each frigate will be equipped with one SMASH 30 mm system as a secondary weapon, and the system will be fully integrated with the platform’s combat management system (CMS), said the official. Jane’s understands that the weapon will be situated in the platform’s stern section, facing its flight deck.

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) won a contract in 2016 to supply the PN with two 2,600-tonne frigates that derive its design from the Republic of Korea Navy’s (RoKN’s) Incheon (FFX-I) class. Besides the 30 mm gun system, the warship is also expected to be equipped with an eight-cell vertical launching system (VLS) installed at the forward section, and a 76 mm naval gun.

According to specifications provided by Aselsan, the SMASH system is fitted with a 30 mm Mk 44 Bushmaster-II cannon that can fire up to 200 rounds/minute, and can be operated either via an operator console or in automatic tracking mode.

The system can be equipped with an electro-optic sight package containing a thermal camera, a video camera, and laser range finder, and also operate in surveillance mode to improve the platform’s situational awareness. The turret can be fed via two separate ammunition stowage lines.

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Post by: mamiyapis on November 28, 2017, 05:15:29 AM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?
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Post by: gemini1 on November 28, 2017, 09:00:44 PM
Good catch Mamiyapis.

Could the addition of the VLS to be installed and not FFBNW an agreement between Hyundai and the DND, in exchange for changing the other gears that were initially in the spec?
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Post by: mamiyapis on November 29, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
Good catch Mamiyapis.

Could the addition of the VLS to be installed and not FFBNW an agreement between Hyundai and the DND, in exchange for changing the other gears that were initially in the spec?

It's entirely possible gemini1, as the config now taking shape isn't exactly a slouch and is actually comparable to current front-line warships serving with the German, US, and other western navies.

If a counter-offer was made to advance the VLS installation, it could explain the inclusion of less expensive(bit less capable) equipment over the supposed "original config".
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on November 29, 2017, 08:09:14 AM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?

It would indeed be interesting if K-VLS would actually be added as part of the package.

But that would bind PN with the few current load-outs that are already integrated with it.  As it is, only LigNex1 K-SAAM Sea Bow (Surface-to-Air Anti Missile), Red Shark K-ASROC and Hyunmoo-3 Cruise Missile had been tested so far.  Accordingly -- there are no plans to integrate other western missiles, as they already have concurrent Mk.41s for those application.  Both VLS's are installed on their KDX-II and -III

Meanwhile, they have developed a smaller 4-cell K-VLS (2x2) module which will be installed on their newest Minelayer and LST-II, with the K-SAAM as anti-air self-defense, supposedly in lieu of RAM. 
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Post by: adroth on November 29, 2017, 07:12:44 PM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?

From: http://www.hanwha-defensesystems.co.kr/mobile/eng/products/launcher.do

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on November 29, 2017, 11:29:55 PM
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1017491

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Acceptance procedures for frigate components ongoing

By Priam Nepomuceno  November 30, 2017, 8:47 am

MANILA -- Technical inspection and acceptance procedures for components that will be installed on the Philippines' first two missile-firing frigates are now being finalized.

This was bared by Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong on Wednesday when asked on the progress of the modernization project worth PHP18 billion.

"The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) is proceeding as scheduled and we are now finalizing the Technical Inspection and Acceptance procedures for the many components that will comprise the two frigates," he said in a message to the Philippine News Agency.

This stage includes possible selection of weapons, propulsion and sensor systems on the two frigates.

"We expect the concerned parties to submit the checklists, which are required in the Technical Inspection process, not later than December 1, 2017," Andolong said.

On Oct. 24, 2016, DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana formally inked the contract for the FAP, together with officials and delegates from South Korea's Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) at the PN's headquarters in Naval Station Andrada, Roxas Boulevard, Manila.

The project involves the construction and delivery of two missile-firing frigates to the PN.

As background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13, 2016 with the amount of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.

An additional PHP2 billion was allocated for the acquisition of assorted weapon systems and munitions. (PNA)
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Post by: adroth on December 01, 2017, 12:20:34 AM
It would indeed be interesting if K-VLS would actually be added as part of the package.

But that would bind PN with the few current load-outs that are already integrated with it.  As it is, only LigNex1 K-SAAM Sea Bow (Surface-to-Air Anti Missile), Red Shark K-ASROC and Hyunmoo-3 Cruise Missile had been tested so far.  Accordingly -- there are no plans to integrate other western missiles, as they already have concurrent Mk.41s for those application.  Both VLS's are installed on their KDX-II and -III

Meanwhile, they have developed a smaller 4-cell K-VLS (2x2) module which will be installed on their newest Minelayer and LST-II, with the K-SAAM as anti-air self-defense, supposedly in lieu of RAM.

For reference

Korea’s KDX-III AEGIS Destroyers
Jun 11, 2015 00:36 UTC by Defense Industry Daily staff

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/drs-wins-multiplexing-contract-for-korean-aegis-destroyers-0431/

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KDX-III ships real firepower lies their array of 128 vertical launch cells, which is slightly more than the American Ticonderoga Class cruiser’s 122 cells. On the Korean ships, these VLS cells come in 2 types.

The standard Mk 41 vertical launch cells are split 48 forward, and 32 aft, for a total of 80. Vertically-launched SM-2 Block IIIA/B surface-to-air missiles handle long-range anti-aircraft duties, and an upgrade to the SM-6 is planned. The ships could also upgrade to ABM-capable SM-3s, if accompanying modifications are made to the radar and combat system, but South Korean leaders aren’t interested. Mk.41 cells can also carry a wide variety of other payloads, including quad-packed RIM-162 anti-aircraft missiles, vertically-launched anti-submarine torpedoes, or Tomahawk cruise missiles. South Korea currently seems focused on filling them with SM-2s. This will give the destroyers 3-layer anti-aerial protection (SM-2/6, RAM, Goalkeeper).

Weapons variety comes from a 3rd VLS set of 48 aft-mounted “K-VLS” cells, a Korean system that holds locally-designed weapons like Hyunmoo cruise missiles, SSM-700K Haesung external link anti-ship missiles, Red Shark “K-ASROC” vertically launched rocket-assisted anti-submarine torpedoes, or other compatible weapons.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on December 01, 2017, 10:38:10 PM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?

"Expected to include" sounds more like FFBNW. That there are space provisions for a VLS system forward is known.  If there was VLS from the get-go, then the Mistrals/'Simbad RCs are a redundant expense.
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Post by: mamiyapis on December 02, 2017, 02:30:11 AM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?

"Expected to include" sounds more like FFBNW. That there are space provisions for a VLS system forward is known.  If there was VLS from the get-go, then the Mistrals/'Simbad RCs are a redundant expense.

It could be just the launchers, LionFlyer, as the budget for ammunition and missiles was separated from the get-go.
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Post by: adroth on December 20, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
Frigate project to push through despite Mercado relief
By Priam Nepomuceno  December 20, 2017, 6:18 pm

http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1019420

MANILA -- The Philippine Navy’s frigate project would push through despite the relief of Vice Adm. Ronald Joseph Mercado from the Navy’s top post, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said Wednesday.

"Kaya nga naming siya tinanggal, para matuloy (We relieved him so that the project would push through)" he added.

Mercado was relieved Tuesday after the defense chief cited loss of trust and confidence in the integrity and leadership of the naval officer.

This was brought about by Mercado’s alleged fixation on one company to supply the combat management system (CMS) of the frigate project, whose contract was won by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries.

The CMS handles the weapons, sensors and other equipment related to combat.

Lorenzana also clarified that before signing the contract for the frigate program last year, he had a consultation meeting with ranking Navy leaders, including Mercado who was Western Command chief at that time, to determine if they had any problem or misgiving on the project.

When no opposition came from the naval officers, Lorenzana said he proceeded to the Navy headquarters in Roxas Blvd., Manila and signed the contract.

In the contract, Lorenzana said the shipbuilder has the authority or power to select the maker or manufacturer of the CMS.

"The CMS is very important to the project but there is a specification there. They were in the contract, the technical working groups’ discussion. You cannot put a company there to put the CMS, ilagay mo lang capability na gusto mo (just state the capability that you want). Now Hyundai said that they can, they will put the capabilities, CMS there according to specifications and we will find that out when they deliver that. Pag na-deliver yun at hindi nasunod yung specifics nyan (Once that is delivered and the specifications are not met), we will not accept the project and we have to reconnect to them so that they can correct whatever is deficient," he added.

He added that Hyundai is not keen on Mercado's proposal as it is more expensive and not in the contract.

Once delivered and commissioned in 2020, the frigates will be the first Filipino warships capable of neutralizing surface, subsurface and air threats with missile and other modern armaments. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on December 23, 2017, 02:46:58 AM
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands, why the insistence on Thales?

Now the claim has been that a "BOQ"(assuming this is a Bill of Quantities) issued by HHI contains different hardware, hence making these "new selections" for hardware "illegal". The matter being complicated that the requested capability of the Navy is reportedly not being met by these new selections.

Hopefully, documentation will come out touching on these issues and finally clearing the air. One thing is for sure though, the social media storm this issue has caused has reached international media and it would only help to go public to finally correct misconceptions... whichever side they may exist on.
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Post by: horge on December 23, 2017, 12:40:59 PM
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands.

Sure, but you can specify to the point where only one product clears, or at least to the point where your
true desire becomes obvious to all. Do you remember back on timawa, how the original spec for the TAS
was lifted almost word for word from (brand X) brochure?

;)

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it would only help to go public to finally correct misconceptions.

Pragmatically, yes: there's little DND+AFP does that OPFOR doesn't know intimately about anyway.
Conceptually, no. OPSEC (and PERSEC) remain ideal principles.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on December 24, 2017, 03:43:40 AM

Sure, but you can specify to the point where only one product clears, or at least to the point where your
true desire becomes obvious to all. Do you remember back on timawa, how the original spec for the TAS
was lifted almost word for word from (brand X) brochure?

;)


Sure h, they could have done that... but apparently the specs were not written quite as well enough
to ensure the same from happening.

From my POV, it looks like someone screwed up the specifications/requirements and didn't realize
the Koreans might just have something they can use to alternate against their target product. The
last 6 months have sounded like nothing more than someone desperately trying to get the products
they wanted all along.


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Pragmatically, yes: there's little DND+AFP does that OPFOR doesn't know intimately about anyway.
Conceptually, no. OPSEC (and PERSEC) remain ideal principles.

The SND can cut through the ambiguities. He's in it whether he wants to be or not. Release a more
general statement, something along the lines of : "Product T is good, but Product H works too and
is compliant with all our needs". Then let the Pre-Delivery Inspections do the job.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on December 24, 2017, 11:03:50 AM
The SND can cut through the ambiguities. He's in it whether he wants to be or not. Release a more
general statement, something along the lines of : "Product T is good, but Product H works too and
is compliant with all our needs". Then let the Pre-Delivery Inspections do the job.

With the politically-motivated inquiries that are reportedly being lined up . . . a more detailed accounting of what happened will be necessary.
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Post by: LionFlyer on December 24, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands
As per Section 18, RA 9184

Now the claim has been that a "BOQ"(assuming this is a Bill of Quantities) issued by HHI contains different hardware, hence making these "new selections" for hardware "illegal". The matter being complicated that the requested capability of the Navy is reportedly not being met by these new selections.
As part of the two envelope submission, the BOQ is one of the second envelope along with the price schedule.

If Thales was explicitly listed in the BOQ, it might explain the insistence. Again, we don't have sight on what was mentioned in the contract and how the responsibility between the prime contractor (HHI) and GOP are resolved. This model of the prime contractor deciding on the equipment selection isn't new or necessarily bad, especially since the risks are transferred to the prime contractor in the event that the system integration runs into trouble, versus CSI being a GFE or by a third party.
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Post by: adroth on December 25, 2017, 11:14:28 PM
Interestingly, the dissolution of the Samsung-Thales entity ended after the second Samsung-Thales equipped Incheon class frigate was launched.

Thales to sell 50% stake in Samsung joint venture

By Korea Herald
Published : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35 Updated : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150309001015
      
Thales, Europe’s biggest defense electronics company, plans to sell its 50 percent stake in Samsung Thales to the company’s new owner Hanwha Group, multiple sources said Monday.

“An official announcement is imminent as their talks are being finalized,” said a source familiar with the matter.

“Thales considers Hanwha less attractive as a partner. For the same reason, Total is also looking to sell its stake in its joint venture with Samsung.”

Samsung Thales is a 50-50 joint venture between Samsung and Thales established in 2001. It has engaged in the design and development of digital defense technologies and systems.

Could this mean that the intent -- all along -- was for South Korea to develop its own CMS with Thales as the knowledge-transfer source, and that the necessary knowledge had indeed already been transferred?

How much of Tacticos actually lives on in Naval Shield?

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 03, 2018, 10:18:47 PM
hope in the improved version of the PN Frigates, we could put this one up..

https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/january-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/5833-saab-offers-fixed-face-configuration-of-sea-giraffe-4a.html
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Post by: adroth on January 11, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Solon says P25-B AFP upgrades a message to terrorists: ‘We’re capable of defeating you’
Published January 10, 2018 7:31pm
By ERWIN COLCOL, GMA News

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/639237/solon-says-p25-b-afp-upgrades-a-message-to-terrorists-lsquo-we-rsquo-re-capable-of-defeating-you-rsquo/story/

House Appropriations Committee chair Karlo Nograles said that the P25-billion Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) modernization program will improve the military's fighting capabilities in all aspects.

In a news release, Nograles said the Department of National Defense has already given final approval of the details of the P25 billion for the modernization plan.

"We're talking about land, air, and sea upgrades for the AFP. This modernization program will erase doubts regarding the Duterte administration's commitment to our brave men and women in uniform and protecting the country as a whole," Nograles said.

"While our military personnel will no doubt enjoy their well-deserved increase in base pay this year, their morale will get another huge boost thanks to the new combat vehicles they will be getting," he added.

Included in the forthcoming purchases under the modernization plan are 24 attack helicopters worth P13.8 billion, one fixed wing jet worth P2 billion, and one turboprop patrol aircraft worth P1.8 billion.

"If the acquisition of the attack helicopters will be subject to a multi-year acquisition, then the list would also include 44 units of light attack tanks. These will be worth P9.4 billion," Nograles said.

The program will also include payment, through multi-year obligations, for two frigates, an amphibious assault vehicle, and a surveillance radar worth a total of P8 billion.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on January 15, 2018, 04:32:15 PM
Palace had special interest in Navy’s selection of weapons system supplier (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960572/palace-had-special-interest-in-navys-selection-of-weapons-system-supplier)

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The Palace, the Department of National Defense (DND), and the Navy discussed the issue hounding the combat management systems (CMS) of the Navy’s frigate program.

It included a letter to President Rodrigo Duterte from the Navy explaining why it preferred Tacticos CMS of Thales Nederlands, Inc. over Hanwha Thales (HTC) for the CMS of the frigates.

Palace preference for Hanwha over Tacticos Thales

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The letter from Go, written in broken English, claimed that while “Thales CMS,” apparently referring to Tacticos CMS, has “many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy.”

The letter said that the Korean Navy was set to “discard” Thales from its “OEM [original equipment manufacturer] portfolios” because of the above-stated reason.

It also said that “Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports.”

Moreover, Hanwha was prepared to provide “real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams.”

Navy insists on Tacticos Thales

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the FAP PMT “preferred Tacticos CMS over Naval Shield ICMS” because Tacticos CMS “is one of the leading Combat Management Systems in the world considering that it is being used by 23 foreign countries to over 172 ships.”

Tacticos CMS is also compatible with the TDL 16 requirement of the AFP, while “Hanwha’s Naval Shield ICMS’ compatibility with TDL 16 is still under development phase but could not be operational by 2019

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In view of the foregoing, the Frigate Acquisition Project PMT sustains its preference on Tacticos of Thales Nederlands as the CMS for the two (2) PN Frigates...
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 15, 2018, 04:48:59 PM
that article breed more questions than answers...

1. many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy ---- they need to elaborate on this one??

2. Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports --- i hope someone could elaborate on this one.. pang electronics na ang kwentuhan nito..

3. real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams ------ "will establish".. ano included sa support? need to elaborate on there end...

kung 2019 pa ma activate ung TDL 16 ibig sabihin di pa compatible with NATO and US Navy sakaling mag karoon ng exercises such as Pacific Rim, etc..
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Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 15, 2018, 04:53:54 PM
so even the OIC is on the same page of the relieved Mercado that they prefer Tacticos over Naval Shield.. so why relieved Mercado?

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 15, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
one thing i found interesting is nakaabot na pala sa MalacaÑang ang problema sa CMS, so they are not in the dark on the issue....

how about the other replaced systems beside the CMS..

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Post by: adroth on January 15, 2018, 06:51:30 PM
that article breed more questions than answers...

1. many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy ---- they need to elaborate on this one??

2. Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports --- i hope someone could elaborate on this one.. pang electronics na ang kwentuhan nito..

3. real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams ------ "will establish".. ano included sa support? need to elaborate on there end...

kung 2019 pa ma activate ung TDL 16 ibig sabihin di pa compatible with NATO and US Navy sakaling mag karoon ng exercises such as Pacific Rim, etc..

Many things in that article don't add up.

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http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2800.msg8882#msg8882
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on January 16, 2018, 05:01:29 PM
^ Acting FOIC cited Hanwa Thales Co., Ltd (HTC) in his letter to Malacañang, 23 January 2017

that article breed more questions than answers...

1. many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy ---- they need to elaborate on this one??

2. Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports --- i hope someone could elaborate on this one.. pang electronics na ang kwentuhan nito..

3. real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams ------ "will establish".. ano included sa support? need to elaborate on there end...

kung 2019 pa ma activate ung TDL 16 ibig sabihin di pa compatible with NATO and US Navy sakaling mag karoon ng exercises such as Pacific Rim, etc..

(http://i66.tinypic.com/of4nzd.jpg)

Image source: http://bit.ly/2mO8RHw
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on January 17, 2018, 02:05:22 AM
Design review of 2 frigates to undergo technical inspection: DND (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1021900)
By Priam Nepomuceno  January 17, 2018, 1:13 pm

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Critical Design Review (CDR) of the two frigates, on order from South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries, has been completed and will now be undergoing examination by the Philippine Navy's Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC) this week.

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Once approved, the CDR will serve as the "Bible" of the shipbuilder in constructing the ship and putting the systems desired by the customer or end-user.

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 17, 2018, 02:40:01 AM
good luck to the test.. Hope they all fall into place...

ano ba standards ng test? any checklist?

papasok ba sa test ang "swarm attacks from air, surface at subsurface"?

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: slayermoonlight on January 18, 2018, 04:03:45 AM
If HHI tells the (noob) Philippine government:  "Take it or leave it", what would you choose?

 #1 Take it? (accept the design and commence steel cutting despite the non-compliances)?

 #2 Leave it? (just cancel the frigate project as per Rep Alejano advice)?

choose your poison wisely
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on January 18, 2018, 05:56:56 AM
#1 Take it? (accept the design and commence steel cutting despite the non-compliances)?

From HHI perspective, there is no non-compliance to speak of, especially given the contract wording. Which means it could be the other way round. HHI can terminate this contract unilateral if it doesn't get its way without any penalties.

#2 Leave it? (just cancel the frigate project as per Rep Alejano advice)?

Going by the wording of the contract, payment so far will be forfeited. See #1.

Taking this to the courts will take years to resolve. Airbus just resolved a dispute with Taiwan over the sale of missiles... from 1992!

 #3, negotiate with HHI and top-up the difference to get your CMS/bells and whistles. Money talks, but the politics would make it an untenable choice.

As distasteful as this saga is, one point needs to be highlighted. The original scope of this project was for a far less capable platform and thus was budgeted accordingly. The seeds of this problem was laid when the scope was revised for a far more capable light frigate by the consultant, midway thru the bid. Not really the consultant's fault as he was trying to do right.

But when you budget to build a two story house and decided to make it three story without any increase in budget.... you must either get lucky with a good contractor willing to absorb the difference or run the risks of someone cutting corners. The risk evidently exploded.

Citing GRSE's statements about being able to deliver at this price point is merely a red herring. It is easy for them to take this position and throw shade at a competitor since they got no skin in the game. Even if the contract with HHI was canned, and project restarted with this scope and no changes to the budget, it is a huge risk because the margins are razor thin and none of the brand name shipyards are interested. You might end up with the likes of GRSE (India), MTG Dolphin (Bulgaria). 
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on January 19, 2018, 07:47:36 PM
This insight deserves its time under the sun.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1475552265863949

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on January 20, 2018, 05:46:38 PM
TTC rightly pointed out that NS ICMS is a "fork" from the original TACTICOS in software terms. But no two forks are equal and the question is less about whether the platform can be easily modified, but who does the work (and pays for it).

Unlike Singapore, Philippines does not have that capability to do that modification and integration work and would be reliant on Hanwah. Who will have to charge for it or offer you the indigenous alternative (Link K for example) for free, but further tying AFP to the SK ecosystem.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on January 21, 2018, 01:45:08 AM
In all the recent discussions about the FAP and Link16, one important part of the project appears to have been missed. SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-01 specify Link16 and Link22 as requirements  . . . but were to be FFBNW

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on January 21, 2018, 02:40:25 AM
From another, rival, FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/587923644611471/permalink/1829041683832988/?comment_id=1829621507108339&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on January 23, 2018, 07:48:13 AM
Ex-Navy chief: Frigate project must push through (ftp://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1022395")

By Priam Nepomuceno  January 22, 2018, 1:48 pm

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MANILA -- Despite the controversies surrounding the PHP18 -billion Frigate Acquisition Program (FAP), former Philippine Navy flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado still wants the project to push through as the two ships will give the PN its much needed punch in protecting the country's vast maritime territories.

He made this announcement during a chance interview in Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City on Monday.

"Well, sa amin lang naman is I like that frigate (project to push through) because everyone in the Navy wants that frigate (to be completed) kasi it's a combat ship, anong mangyayari sa Navy natin kung walang punch 'di ba, you cannot (only have) transport ships, we should have a punch, the frigate is the capital ship, and this is the first time in the history of the PN that we will have a frigate newly constructed tapos missile capable (and can defeat) air, surface and undersea (threats)," Mercado added.

The FAP contract worth PHP18 billion, including the weapon systems and munitions, was won by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries. It will be armed with a variety of missiles and guns capable of defeating various threats.

With regard to claims that he is pushing for a particular brand of combat management system (CMS) for the frigates, Mercado said he was only standing for the original position of the PN regarding the equipment it wants for its ships.

He added that the system the Navy wanted is more proven and in use in many naval forces in the world.

Earlier, Magdalo party-list Rep. Gary Alejano claimed that FAP project is replete with anomalies and that its design was altered from the original.

This includes the alleged preference for the Hanwha CMS, the lawmaker said.

Aside from this, there are claims that Special Assistant to the President (SAP) Christopher 'Bong' Go allegedly interfered with the FAP.

However, this allegation was dismissed by the Department of National Defense (DND) last week.

"The President has already addressed the issue of the alleged 'intervention' of the SAP Christopher “Bong” Go in the PN Frigate Acquisition Project," DND spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said, quoting Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana.

"The Secretary of National Defense (Delfin Lorenzana) is confirming that no intervention or interference by Secretary Bong Go happened. The document that the SND alluded to have been given to him by Secretary Bong Go was handed to him at the Palace, so he assumed that it came from Secretary Go, the Special Assistant to the President and Chief of the Presidential Management Staff (PMS). It should be noted that the one of the tasks of the PMS includes the official routing and endorsement of documents to government agencies concerned, for appropriate action," he added.

Andolong said the subject document originated from Hanwha, one of the proponents for the CMS who were post-qualified by the PN for the FAP.

"The SND forwarded it to then Flag-Officer-In-Command of the Philippine Navy (then Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado) for appropriate action, who, in turn, gave it to then Commodore (now Rear Admiral) Robert Empedrad, the Chairperson of the Frigate Project Management Team at the time. Admiral Empedrad wrote a reply to the document stating the preferred CMS of the Philippine Navy, subject to the terms and conditions of the contract," he added.

The DND spokesperson said there was neither hint nor guidance from the Palace or from Go to influence the implementation of the project.

"There is a contract for the FAP which was crafted mainly by the Philippine Navy and it will be implemented strictly to the letter," Andolong pointed out. (PNA)

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*rant mode on*

Sorry... but from everything I've seen and heard... Isn't this entire hullabaloo the shared fault of the Navy and DND? These "pull at the heartstrings" tactics and articles of the Navy just broke my back.

They essentially signed a contract no one proof-read before the signing ceremony. Even if no one from our side signs a particular page of a contract, if it is attached to it at the time of signing, then it stands as legal language of the said contract. Does no one understand that at the Navy? Mercado and Empedrad can spin this however they want, but at the end of the day they are both on hook for signing what they are now claiming was a defective and deceitful contract. We can talk about how underhanded this was on the part of HHI until the Chinese Navy gets flying ships, but that is just crying over spilled milk.

Now let's not forget the seeming willingness of both the DND and Navy to just negotiate the CMS and call it a day. Why laser focus on the CMS when there is a sh*t ton of issues with the Frigate? If I was Mercado and I got that list? I would throw it in the face of the HHI rep and tell him the deal is off and we break the contract if they don't fix EVERYTHING.

Now, let's say just for argument's sake HHI bends on the CMS and installs Tacticos tomorrow. What is the Navy's playbook on the rest of the issues the ship reportedly has? Complain again? Beg HHI for understanding? Ask them to think of the children all salivating at the mouth for the Navy's first missile firing ships? What's next? They basically wrote themselves into a corner by releasing all this crap in media instead of talking for more negotiating room.

Do we bring up the issues piecemeal and hope they also bend? Do we get backlash saying we are now just nitpicking? This focus on just the CMS opens a dangerous precedent for future acquisitions. It tells suppliers they can bend the rules as long as you can get the Navy to tell you what is important to them and just qualify with that system.

Lastly, this is article just made sure HHI knows they have us by the balls when it comes to the 2 frigates.

Le sigh

*rant mode off*
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on January 23, 2018, 10:33:38 AM
Lorenzana: Frigate project cancellation unlikely (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1022524)
By Priam Nepomuceno  January 23, 2018, 1:47 pm

MANILA -- Despite allegations hounding the Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program (FAP), Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that it is very unlikely that the project would be cancelled.

'With all the facts we know about the frigate (project)? No," he said in a message.

Earlier, the DND announced that it is welcoming any investigation on its PHP18 billion FAP, noting that it has nothing to hide regarding the matter.

DND public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong made the statement in response to plans of the Senate minority bloc to conduct an investigation on the FAP.

"The DND welcomes the plan of the Senate to conduct an investigation on the Frigate Acquisition Project. In fact, we have long been waiting for the opportunity to shed light on this issue so that the truth will finally be known," he added.

Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: slayermoonlight on January 23, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
btw sirs, is the current PMT still the PMT's during Pnoy's term or there was a new set of PMT during Du30's term?
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on February 03, 2018, 10:18:44 AM
Malacañang calls for Probe into Frigate Deal Issue (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1024020)
February 3, 2018, 5:39 pm

MANILA -- Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque Jr. on Saturday called for an investigation into the multi-billion Navy frigate contract entered into by the previous administration with a Korean firm.

This is in connection with the statement of Magdalo Partylist Representative Gary Alejano saying that Hyundai Heavy Industries was banned to participate in state-led bids in South Korea due to the firm's alleged bribery cases in other countries.


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Congressman Alejano, salamat po. Dahil sa iyong sinabi iimbestigahan na po natin yung inyong mga kakampi noong nakalipas na administrasyon...

Kung totoo na blacklisted iyong binigyan nila ng kontrata, dapat managot iyong mga opisyales ng mga nakalipas na administrasyon at sabihin sa atin bakit naging ganoon ang kanilang naging desisyon

The Duterte administration, according to Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque Jr., merely performed a ministerial function in giving the Notice of Award to the winning bidder, pursuant to a provision of Republic Act No. 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform law.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on February 04, 2018, 04:45:53 PM
it seems this project is in peril.. Alejano played to the hands of Roque... and he baited..
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on February 11, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
Frigate project still on despite HHI 'troubles' (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1024822)
By Priam Nepomuceno  February 11, 2018, 12:26 pm

MANILA -- The Philippine Navy's PHP18-billion Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP), which was awarded to South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is "still proceeding on schedule."

This was the remark of Department of National Defense (DND) spokesperson Arsenio Andolong when asked about the program's status after HHI was banned from participating in any South Korean tenders for two years after its top executive was found guilty of offering bribes in order to win the bid to supply parts for four nuclear reactors to be constructed at the United Arab Emirates.

The case stemmed in 2013 and in 2015, HHI was convicted and was penalized by a two-year ban.

It sought to have the ban nullified in 2015 and the South Korean Supreme Court on Dec. 22, 2017 ruled with finality against the shipbuilder.


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Wala pang official word from the Republic of Korea (including its Embassy in Manila) as of today, the project is continuing, we are still going for the milestones that are outline(d) and (in the) timeline, (the project is) just proceeding as planned

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There is a proper process prescribed in RA 9184 (Government Procurement Reform Act) concerning the termination of a procurement project and there are specific conditions that must be present in order to invoke it, none of which are existing at the moment in this project
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 17, 2018, 08:39:14 PM
Navy frigate deal: What we need to know
By Jose Cielito Reganit  February 18, 2018, 7:00 am

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1025561

MANILA -- The Senate on Monday, Feb. 19, will start its probe into the alleged controversies surrounding the PHP16-billion acquisition of two Philippine Navy frigates.

The investigation by the Senate Committee on National Defense and Security, headed by Senator Gregorio Honasan, as well as the Congressional Oversight Committee on the Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Act, seeks to determine whether the acquisition of the combat ships "promotes the goals of the modernization program and complies with pertinent laws".

The investigation was initiated by opposition lawmakers in the Senate — Minority Leader Franklin Drilon along with Senators Francis Pangilinan, Paolo Benigno Aquino IV, Risa Hontiveros, Leila de Lima, and Antonio Trillanes IV —through Resolution No. 584.

It was filed in the wake of allegations that Special Assistant to the President (SAP) Christopher "Bong" Go endorsed a letter to the defense department regarding the project.

But what was the root of the controversy and how was Go's name dragged into it?

The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) is one of the key pieces of the Armed Forces of the Philippines’ (AFP) modernization program, as it seeks to provide the country with the capability to deal with air, surface and sub-surface threats.

It will be armed with a variety of missiles and guns capable of defeating such threats.

The acquisition of the two frigates is widely seen as the first step to provide the Philippine Navy with modern and capable warships to protect the country’s vast maritime territories.

‘Done deal’

The FAP contract, which is worth almost PHP16 billion excluding the weapon systems and munitions, was initiated in June 2013 and was awarded during the time of President Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III under then defense secretary Voltaire Gazmin.

On June 16, 2016, the notice of award was issued to HHI by Gazmin and the conforme was signed by HHI  on September 13, 2016.

On June 30, 2016, President Rodrigo R. Duterte was inaugurated as the 16th president of the Republic.

In September that year, then-appointed DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana sent the Notice of Award, and shortly after being confirmed by the Commission on Appointments on Oct. 19, signed the FAP contract agreement with the naval shipbuilder.

The Notice to Proceed was issued to HHI on Dec. 13 of the same year.

But for the most part of 2017, the project was stalled at the Critical Design Review (CDR) stage after the Navy and HHI raised conflicting concerns on the combat management system (CMS) to be installed on the frigates.

The CMS is what most call “the brain of a naval combat vessel”, a computer and software system package that integrates all the sensors and weapons systems of the ship into a single system to assure “knowledge superiority” over potential enemies, shorten decision-making cycles, and execute rapid and accurate weapon engagement, especially during combat or security operations.

HHI, citing a provision in the contract, claims “sole right” to choose the CMS maker and selected fellow South Korean company Hanwha Systems as the preferred supplier.

On the other hand, former Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado said that the PN preferred the Tacticos system made by Thales of The Netherlands.

It is the choice for the CMS supplier that will be at the center of Monday’s Senate investigation.

In a privileged speech at the House of Representatives last Jan. 15, Magdalo party-list Rep. Gary Alejano claimed that the FAP project’s “design was altered from the original”.

He also accused HHI of surreptitiously inserting “disadvantageous” provisions, or “fine prints”, into the contract that the Navy leadership and Lorenzana were unaware of.

Alejano also questioned the choice of HHI over its main rival for the project, Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers of India, which submitted a bid that is PHP700 million lower than the winning bidder.

Aside from this, there are claims that SAP Bong Go allegedly got involved in the choice of the CMS supplier.

SAP Go

The Philippine Daily Inquirer and online news outlet Rappler claimed that Go allegedly gave Lorenzana a “white paper” about the supplier to provide the CMS for the warships sometime in January 2017.

This document was passed on to Mercado with a marginal note, dated Jan. 12, 2017, signed by Lorenzana.

“To Admiral Mercado,” Lorenzana wrote on a post-it. “Ronald, This was given to me by Bong Go. Go over it and prepare a report/rebuttal to be submitted to the Pres.”

The Presidential Management Staff, which Go heads, also asked then Frigate Project Technical Working Group chairman Commodore Robert Empedrad to a meeting in Malacañang to discuss the CMS concern.

However, Go refuted sending the controversial document himself, while Lorenzana flatly denied Go interfered in the warships deal.

"My name has been unfairly dragged in this issue. I am not privy to the frigate transaction of the DND. I have never seen the controversial document that is alleged to have come from me, much less, handed the same to SND Lorenzana," he said in a statement issued on January 17.

"In fact, I will resign if it can be proven that I intervened. It should be emphasized that the frigate project was already a done deal in 2016 during the time of former President Aquino,” Go added.

Lorenzana, Mercado and Empedrad likewise denied that Go intervened in the frigate project.

In a Radyo Pilipinas interview last Jan. 20, Mercado, cleared Go of any interference in the warships deal.

"Ilang beses kami na magkasama ni Secretary Bong Go, ilang beses kaming mag kausap. In fact, pag nag-escort ako kay President (Duterte) aboard foreign navy ships, gaya nung sa China, Pakistan, Japan, ni isang beses 'di kami nag-usap tungkol sa Navy frigate project (Secretary Go and I have met and spoken to each other a number of times, such as when I escorted the President aboard foreign navy ships, such as those of Chine, Pakistan, Japan. But not once did we talk about the Navy frigate project)," Mercado said.

Malacañang also cleared Go of the allegations after conducting an internal probe.

“An investigation has been conducted and it has been found that the allegations of Rappler are untrue and unfounded,” Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque said on January 18.

The DND later on announced that the alleged “white paper” originated from Hanwha, one of the proponents for the CMS which was post-qualified by the PN for the FAP.

Timeline in review

For a better perspective on what have transpired thus far regarding the frigate project, the Philippine News Agency (PNA) has obtained a copy of the chronological order of key events relating to the Frigate Acquisition Project.

June 7, 2013 – Former Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin signed Acquisition Decision Memorandum No. ‎‎2013-019 to initiate the immediate implementation of the acquisition of two brand new Frigates for the Philippine Navy with an approved budget of PHP18 billion.

Dec. 4, 2013 – The first stage bidding was conducted wherein six proponents were declared eligible by the DND Special Bids and Awards Committee (SBAC), namely: Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd. (DSME) – Korea; Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd. (Hyundai) – Korea; STX Offshore & Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. (STX O & S) – Korea; STX France S.A. – France; Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineering Ltd. GRSE – India; and Navantia SEP (Navantia) – Spain.

March 17, 2016 – The two lowest cost bidders were declared: Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) with bid price of USD322 million or PHP15,047,704,000 (1USD = PHP46.732); and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) with bid price of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.

April 30 to May 8, 2016 – GRSE was declared non-compliant to the financial requirements of the project as required by Section 23.5.2.6 of the Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of RA 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform Act. Its Net Financial Contracting Capacity (NFCC) was found to be below the approved budget contract of PHP16 billion.

June 16, 2016 – DND Bids and Awards Committee declared HHI as the winning bidder and issued the Notice of Award in its favor.

Sept. 13, 2016 – DND Sec. Lorenzana sent a Notice of Award to Mr. Ki Yeong Sung with a corresponding contract price of PHP 15,744,571,584.00.

Oct. 24, 2016 – A contract agreement was signed by Sec. Delfin Lorenzana, Major Marlon B. Dayao, Comm. Robert A. Empedrad, Kisun Chung (Executive Vice President HHI) and Jae R. Kim (Senior Sales Officer of HHI’s Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division)

Jan. 11, 2017 – Col. Leonardo D. Dela Paz, chief of the DND’s Defense Acquisition Office, informed Mr. Ki Young Sund that the “Remarks on Makers” list are grossly disadvantageous to the PN and to the AFP/DND.

Feb. 8, 2017 - Mr. Ki Yeong Sung wrote a letter to the Defense Acquisition Office saying that HHI is entitled to choose HSC Naval Shield as the combat management system (CMS) for PN frigate, which is beneficial for both PN and HHI.

HHI said it can consider the CMS choice of the Navy if it is “willing to compensate USD9 million per ship which is aggregated sum of price difference for the system and service for installation, test and integration in our shipyard.”

April 1, 2017 - Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado wrote a letter to Lorenzana stating the opinion that “Remarks” provisions in the contract are grossly disadvantageous to the PN and to the AFP/DND, saying: “This remarks, if permitted, are akin to a buyer (PN/DND) with his/her own money being told by the seller HHI on what to buy.”

April 6, 2017 - Col. Dela Paz wrote a memorandum to Lorenzana, stating that the Thales offer, although compliant of the technical specifications, is not commercially competitive in view of the price difference of USD 14,050,000.00 as compared to the offer of HSC Naval Shield.

Commercial competitiveness is one of the requirements stipulated in the “Remarks” provision before the shipbuilder should consider the owner’s preferred maker.

April 20, 2017 - Dela Paz informed the Assistant Chief of Naval Staff for Logistics that Lorenzana has approved the recommendation for the continuation of the Frigate Acquisition Project with the HHI-selected maker of the CMS.

Aug. 10, 2017 - In a memorandum addressed to the AFP Chief-of-Staff, Lorenzana said it is improper for the PN, which had post qualified the HSC Naval Shield CMS, to declare it as non-compliant during the project implementation.

Sept. 14, 2017 - Hanhwa issued a Certificate of Conformance with respect to the request of HHI on the CMS and Link 16 on the new frigates of the PN.

Dec. 8, 2017 - Lorenzana sent a letter to Mr. Kisun Chung, EVP of HHI, informing them that the request for amendments to the contract Agreement of the Payment terms and Delivery Schedule of the 2 units Frigate Acquisition Project is approved.

Dec. 18, 2017 - Mr. Park Moon Yung, Senior VP of HHI, sent a reply-letter to Lorenzana, thanking him for the approval of the amendments to the Contract Agreement of the Payment Terms.

At present, the FAP is proceeding with the other technical specifications of the combat ships.

On Monday, several key personalities mentioned in the frigate project, including representatives from HHI, are expected to attend the Senate investigation to shed light into the issues allegedly hounding the warship deal.

Go and Lorenzana have both welcomed the investigation as the perfect opportunity to air their side so that truth will be finally known.

And come Monday, as the Senate investigation begins and due process takes its course, the real truth will surely come out. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: 40niner on February 18, 2018, 03:15:34 AM
Let's see if the dates on the PNA article and the PhilGEPS screengrab match?

Navy frigate deal: What we need to know
By Jose Cielito Reganit  February 18, 2018, 7:00 am

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1025561
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April 30 to May 8, 2016 – GRSE was declared non-compliant to the financial requirements of the project as required by Section 23.5.2.6 of the Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of RA 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform Act. Its Net Financial Contracting Capacity (NFCC) was found to be below the approved budget contract of PHP16 billion.
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June 16, 2016 – DND Bids and Awards Committee declared HHI as the winning bidder and issued the Notice of Award in its favor.
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Sept. 13, 2016 – DND Sec. Lorenzana sent a Notice of Award to Mr. Ki Yeong Sung with a corresponding contract price of PHP 15,744,571,584.00.

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Hyundai, which had submitted the second lowest bid, passed the post-qualification -- and on 18-Aug, the new DND Sec Delfin Lorenzana approved the Notice of Award for HHI to deliver the two frigates based on the timeline on the bid. Contract was set to be signed in late September.

Image of the Notice-of-Award (NOA) from PhilGEPS :
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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 19, 2018, 06:01:37 AM
CMS to be acquired for frigates compliant to Navy specifications
By Priam Nepomuceno  February 19, 2018, 7:46 pm

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1025747

MANILA -- Department of National Defense (DND) Secretary Delfin Lorenzana on Monday assured the public that the combat management system (CMS), being acquired for the two frigates contracted by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is compliant to all the specifications set by the Navy.

"No, we are not settling for a less capable system, compliant system (Hanwha CMS), yan ang (that is the) term sa (in) procurement," Lorenzana noted.

Lorenzana made this statement shortly after Monday's Senate hearing where the Navy's Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) was tackled and the reasons why HHI opted to pick Hanwha over Thales Tacticos, the manufacturer preferred by former PN flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado.

And while acknowledging that Thales Tacticos is a good CMS brand, the DND chief said the Hanwha CMS being selected to fit the Navy's first two missile-firing capable frigates is equally capable.

"We are not buying a lesser product. We are buying an equally capable product to be put into our ship(s)," he added.

Also, Lorenzana emphasized that Mercado's relief last December was brought about by the latter's refusal to comply with two of his memorandums on the CMS and pronouncements that he will have the project cancelled if Thales Tacticos was not selected to supply the above-mentioned equipment.

"(The reason for his relief as FOIC was) dahil dalawang beses na memo ko hindi n’ya sinusunod tapos, sa mga conference niya (sinasabi) na pag hindi (na)tuloy ang (Thales) Tacticos, ika-cancel niya ang FAP (The reason for his relief as FOIC was he disobeyed my memos twice and he says in his conferences that he will have the FAP cancelled if Thales Tacticos will not be selected)," the DND chief pointed out.

Also, Lorenzana said that it was Mercado who had the specification "Tactical Data Link 16" or the ability to transmit and receive data from various platforms in a bid to justify the preference for the Thales Tacticos CMS.

"Hindi ko alam may motivation siningit nila nung tapos na technical specifications nung Link 16, baka (para) ma-disqualify ang Hanhwa (I didn't know there was this motivation that they have inserted when the technical specifications of Link 16 were done. Maybe, it's for Hanhwa's disqualification)," he added.

The DND chief added that this specification was not present in the original specifications. Also, Lorenzana said he has no objections to acquiring the Thales Tacticos CMS provided that adequate funds are allotted for it.

The FAP has a contract of PHP18 billion including the weapon systems and munitions. Earlier, the DND chief said that using the Thales Tacticos CMS will shoot the price of the frigates by USD7 million per ship or USD14 million for the two vessels. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 19, 2018, 06:07:11 AM
"Hindi ko alam may motivation siningit nila nung tapos na technical specifications nung Link 16, baka (para) ma-disqualify ang Hanhwa (I didn't know there was this motivation that they have inserted when the technical specifications of Link 16 were done. Maybe, it's for Hanhwa's disqualification)," he added.

The DND chief added that this specification was not present in the original specifications. Also, Lorenzana said he has no objections to acquiring the Thales Tacticos CMS provided that adequate funds are allotted for it.

The need for Link16 wss actually specified in a Supplemental Bulletin

In all the recent discussions about the FAP and Link16, one important part of the project appears to have been missed. SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-01 specify Link16 and Link22 as requirements  . . . but were to be FFBNW

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on February 21, 2018, 12:11:44 AM
Just a thought on the cost of VLS maybe in the nex batch of PN frigates..

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/02/21/state-clears-dutch-apache-upgrades-kuwait-boats-finnish-weapons/

Finland has been cleared to spend $70 million on four Mk 41 Baseline VII Strike-Length Vertical Launching Systems, used to launch missiles off its upcoming fleet of new-build corvettes.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 21, 2018, 06:08:08 PM
Even if it is FFBNW, there remains an incentive with the shipyard’s preferred vendor to avoid integration issues.

From: http://www.hanwha-defensesystems.co.kr/mobile/eng/products/launcher.do

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: sbhntr on February 22, 2018, 10:58:40 PM
Is this a loophole?
 
(from Adroth reply#81)
“At present, the FAP is proceeding with the other technical specifications of the combat ships.”

If the GRP can put mandatory GRP inspection points at milestones, it can give virtual control back to the buyer. HHI can choose which cms it wants (or on any subsystem) but the GRP has a say whether it is compliant or not….
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 24, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
From: https://www.facebook.com/Rep.AlejanoMagdalo/photos/pcb.1451480754977892/1451479794977988/?type=3&theater

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The commentary at the bottom is in reference to the following

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Arguably he was also referring to this clarification

In all the recent discussions about the FAP and Link16, one important part of the project appears to have been missed. SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-01 specify Link16 and Link22 as requirements  . . . but were to be FFBNW

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Fortis93 on February 24, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
The inexperience of the PN in doing a project this big and technical is being clearly shown. This would definitely be a project with a lot of lessons learned. Even the wording is very vague in a lot of instances. “The CMS SHALL be compatible with link 16”.....this can be interpreted as being in the future as “shall” can be interpreted as expressing something in the future tense. Hanwha is saying, their CMS would be compliant by 2019 and thus complying with “shall be compatible” requirement. They could have said, The CMS to be installed is a CMS that IS compatible with Link 16.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on February 24, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
Wording is so important, especially with requested capabilities like this, and the funny thing is Leo Almazan is correct in saying the inexperience of the Navy clearly shows.

I would have worded it as "The CMS must be CURRENTLY/PRESENTLY compatible with Link 16 as per MIL-STD 6016, etc etc, and delivered with a space to accommodate government provided Link16 radios and terminals. CMS must be readily able to integrate all related tactical datalink equipment."
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on February 24, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
From a companion thread on the FB extension

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1586102804808894/?comment_id=1586112041474637&reply_comment_id=1586407638111744&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R"%7D

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: sbhntr on February 24, 2018, 07:30:01 PM
so after the contract was signed, was there a Post Award Orientation Conference conducted between the signing parties (with representation of contracts, legal, technical, manufacturing, etc) were vague wordings / provisons were straightened out and both parties are on the same page,  recorded and signed? if none was conducted, it may not be too late to do one....
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on February 25, 2018, 08:25:28 AM
so after the contract was signed, was there a Post Award Orientation Conference conducted between the signing parties (with representation of contracts, legal, technical, manufacturing, etc) were vague wordings / provisons were straightened out and both parties are on the same page,  recorded and signed? if none was conducted, it may not be too late to do one....

I believe this was the "workshop" both FOICs were referring to in the hearings. Hence the "clarifications" on Link-16 that the Navy believed disqualified Hanwha's Naval Shield
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on March 07, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
Lorenzana: Warship in controversial Navy frigate deal to be delivered in 2020
Published March 7, 2018 10:47pm
By ERWIN COLCOL, GMA News

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/645850/lorenzana-warship-in-controversial-navy-frigate-deal-to-be-delivered-in-2020/story/

Despite the controversy it is embroiled in, the Philippine Navy's frigate acquisition project is continuing, with the warship expected to be delivered in 2020, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana confirmed.

Lorenzana made this pronouncement on Wednesday after attending the House Committee on National Defense and Security inquiry into the deal, where he served as a resource speaker.

"So it is continuing now. It will be delivered in 2020. Medyo made-delay lang ng six months, but it will be delivered," he told reporters in an ambush interview.

The frigate deal came to national attention after it was alleged to have provisions that would be "grossly disadvantageous"  to the Philippine Navy and the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

But at the hearing, Lorenzana maintained that the frigate project was "above board," and the delivery of the warship would not have been delayed if not for the interference of the former Flag Officer in Command, Vice-Admiral Ronald Mercado.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on March 14, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
It's final: PH Navy chief says Korean system to be installed in warships
Philippine Navy chief Robert Empedrad tells the Commission on Appointments that the selection of Hanwha is a 'done deal'

Camille Elemia
@CamilleElemia
Published 2:20 PM, March 14, 2018
Updated 8:46 AM, March 15, 2018

https://www.rappler.com/nation/198131-philippine-navy-empedrad-frigates-hanwha-commission-appointments

MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Navy decided to use a Korean combat management system (CMS), and not a more tested Dutch system, for warships which are expected to be delivered by 2020.

During his confirmation hearing, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said it is already a done deal because the contract has been signed and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the contactor, already signed deals with its subcontractors, including Korean CMS supplier Hanwha Systems.

"It's a done deal. [HHI] already signed the contract with all subcontractors, [for equipment] like missiles, torpedoes, and other important subsystems," Empedrad told the Commission on Appointments (CA) national defense committee on Wednesday, March 14.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on March 14, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1605055822913592/

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on March 15, 2018, 06:13:12 AM
The original specifications called for a much less capable platform. The revised supplementary specifications increase the capabilities dramatically at no increase in budget.

One can argue that HHi were guilty of recklessly complying with the requirements and pulling bait and switch stunts later. But the reality when compared with frigate programmes of regional countries is it is challenging no matter how you look at it. And Re GRSE claims they could do the job at the same price, I would take it with a pinch of salt and a large contingency budget
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: mamiyapis on March 15, 2018, 11:32:35 PM
The Indians are notorious for undervaluing the job and then arguing for large cost overruns in the middle of the project. One need only look at majority of their national projects which have eneded either way over budget or cancelled because of runaway costs.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on March 16, 2018, 01:05:47 AM
And Re GRSE claims they could do the job at the same price, I would take it with a pinch of salt and a large contingency budget

GSRE's capabilities must be taken with a grain of salt

CAG lays bare breaches in Navy’s anti-sub corvettes
Jayanta Gupta | TNN | Updated: Jul 23, 2017, 03:38 IST

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/cag-lays-bare-breaches-in-navys-anti-sub-corvettes/articleshow/59719163.cms

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According to one of the CAG's latest reports, the Directorate of Naval Design (DND) hadn't finalized the design for the ASW corvettes when issuing the Letter of Intent to Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) Ltd in Kolkata. DND finalized the design in 2006 but continued to modify it till 2008.

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"The drop in the achievement of the specified speed was mainly due to the increase in their weights by over 800 tonnes," the report states. The increase in weight of the corvettes was due to the adoption of various signature reduction measures or stealth capabilities. In a last ditch effort to maintain proper weight, the DND suggested in May 2009 that GRSE use composite superstructures instead of steel ones in the last three of four corvettes of the Kamorta-class being built by GRSE. This would bring down their weights by 70-80 tonnes each. However, due to the lead time required in procuring composite material from foreign vendors, GRSE is using them only in the last two ships that are yet to be delivered.

It was also observed during audit that the INS Kamorta and INS Kadmatt haven't been fitted with a particular weapon and sensor systems and can't perform to their full potential. Till December, 2016, the Harbour Acceptance Trials of the INS Kadmatt were still pending. Sea Acceptance Test (SAT) is also conducted to test a vessel's speed, maneuverability, equipment and safety features.
"It was observed that SAT on six weapons and sensors on the INS Kamorta and all weapons and sensors on INS Kadmatt are pending satisfactory completion. Thus, the effectiveness of the main features of anti-submarine warfare are yet to be proved," the report states.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 01, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
The rest of SND Lorenzana's statements is in the original thread. Just adding this snippet so to tie this thread in with the other

DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana’s response to an open letter on the PH Navy’s frigate project
11:05 AM March 29, 2018

(Editor’s note: Below is the response of Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana to an open letter from Dr. Corazon PB Claudio that was published at Inquirer.net early this month. Claudio wrote a letter to Lorenzana to express her sentiments on the Frigate Acquisition Project of the Philippine Navy.)

CORAZON PE BENITO – CLAUDIO

President, Earth Institute Asia, Inc.
Unit 317 National Life Building
1100 Quezon City
Metro Manila, Philippines

Dear Dr. Claudio,

This is my response to your letter published 9 March 2018 on Inquirer.net, “Letter to fellow Ateneo MBA alum, DND Secretary Delfin N. Lorenzana.” But first, I’d like you to know that I really appreciate your concern and avowed love for the Philippine Navy.

I have to reply primarily to correct the misrepresentation of facts being perpetrated by VAdm Mercado and his supporters. Your letter proved just how successful they have been in this regard.  Please read on and tell me later who should apologize to whom.

I have always known the Philippine Navy as an excellent organization. It has garnered numerous awards and recognitions locally as well as internationally as you have enumerated in your letter. It must be pointed out, however, that these outstanding accomplishments were the result of the collective and cumulative efforts of our valiant sailors and marines, under the leadership of previous FOICs who preceded VAdm Mercado such as VAdm Alexander Pama, VAdm Jose Luis Alano, VAdm Jesus Millan, and VAdm Caesar Taccad, to name a few. It is, thus, unfair to attribute whatever gains the PN has achieved to one person alone. I have no doubt that Vadm Mercado had a sterling service in the Navy. What I am questioning was his actuations with regard to the Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) from June 2016 to November 2017 which has, regretfully, tarnished his good record.

There is nothing wrong with the FAP contract.  All that needs to be done is for it to be implemented as is. I had our legal officers go over it before I signed it and again when VAdm Mercado raised the Combat Management System (CMS) question. I even had a private law firm go over the contract. They all came to the same conclusion: it is in order, in form and substance.

Let us go to the bone of contention – the CMS. These are the things I have derived from your letter which were also the same arguments of VAdm Mercado and Commo Villa during the Senate Hearing:

    That due to the break-up of Hanwha-Thales partnership, there is only one CMS option left – Tacticosof Thales. You also stated that, “After the Hanwha-Thales dissolution, wasn’t VadmMercado correct in just focusing on Thales, which was the only CMS left legally in the contract? Hanwha-Thales is already non-existent, Hanwha System which Hyundai wants to substitute now, is not in the contract and is, thus non-existent legally in the FAP.”

This is the most egregious argument in this whole discourse. What are the facts? During the Submission and Opening of Bid Envelopes (SOBE), HHI submitted two Combat Management Systems. These are: Tacticos developed by Thales Nederland and Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System (NSICMS) developed by Hanwha – Thales Company (HTC) of the Republic of Korea (which became simply Hanwha Systems in October 2016 when Thales and Hanwha severed their ties). The members of the PN Technical Working Group (PN TWG) verified, inspected and evaluated carefully the technical documents of Tacticos and NSICMS and the PN TWG affirmed that both CMS are compliant and both satisfy the technical requirements of the procuring entity, as stipulated in the bidding documents and were therefore “rated as pass” by the DND Bids and Awards Committee (BAC), as recommended by the PN TWG. Note that only their respective CMS were rated, not the companies themselves. As can be gleaned from above, the PN TWG did not rate Thales Nederland or Hanwha-Thales but their systems. When Hanwha-Thales broke up, the NSICMS remained with Hanwha. So, what disqualification was VAdm Mercado talking about? Besides, Hyundai would not be so foolish as to choose a non-existent sub-system.

Moreover, as clearly stated in the Post Qualification Evaluation Summary Report dated 14 June 2016, particularly on the aspect of the “Technical Proposal,” the DND-PN Post Qualification Team, of which VAdm Mercado was the Project Manager, affirmed that all sub-systems in the maker’s list are compliant with the technical requirements of the PN.

    You also stated, “I just hope that when your negative feelings are gone, you will acknowledge that VAdmMercado was just doing his job to ensure compliance with the contract.”

Firstly, feelings had nothing to do with my decision to relieve him. It was based on hard facts alone.

Secondly, this misleading argument (purportedly to ensure compliance with the contract) was also used by VAdm Mercado during the hearing at the House of Representatives (HoR). In fact, he went further by saying that he was just protecting those involved in the contract from any problems later on. What a noble intention! But he is plainly and simply fudging the issue. If there is a person who wants the contract implemented according to our laws, it is no other than the signatory to the Contract and the Head of Procuring Entity (HOPE) – me, the SND. In fact, VAdm Mercado was interfering with the procurement process when he tried to force Hyundai to install his chosen CMS, which is a violation of the Contract.

VAdm Mercado and Commo Villa also argued during the Senate Hearing that when Hyundai agreed (during a workshop held in September 2016) “that the CMS shall be compatible with the Tactical Data Link 16 (TDL16), Hanwha’s NSICMS has been disqualified because only ‘Tacticos is compatible with TDL 16’ at that time.”

Likewise, VAdm Mercado, thru the Philippine Navy Project Management Team (PN PMT) submitted to the DND a position paper asserting that Hyundai must “show proof and objective quality evidence that the CMS is compatible with Link 16 being used by at least one (1) frigate or a similar type of naval vessel from the country of origin or being used by at least one (1) frigate each from two (2) foreign countries as part of the Critical Design Review (CDR).”

Again, this is purely and simply clouding the issue. What are the facts? The phrase “show proof and objective quality evidence that the CMS is compatible with Link 16” does not have any merit as far as the contract is concerned. Instead, the phrase “CMS shall be compatible with Link 16” was part of the contract under the Tactical Data Link (TDL) portion. During the one-week workshop held from 26-30 September 2016, the FAP TWG, chaired by then Commodore Robert A. Empedrad, AFP, requested HHI to include in the contract the phrase, “The CMS shall be compatible with Link 16” because the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) plans to acquire TDL-16 sometime in the future. During the SOBE, this was not part of the technical requirements because what was initially required was just a space provided in the ship for the future installation of TDL-16. Acceding to the Navy’s request, HHI agreed to insert in the contract the phrase, “The CMS shall be compatible with Link 16” without additional cost. As agreed, HHI assures the DND that the TDL 16 will be integrated with the NSICMS before the delivery of the two frigates. 

On 14 September 2017, Hanwha submitted a Compliance Certificate to the Defense Acquisition Office (DAO) stating that its NSICMS is compatible with TDL 16, which should have put to rest the CMS/TDL 16 issue. Unfortunately, it did not because VAdm Mercado still insisted on Tacticos.

A lot of talk has also come out on the supposed superiority of Tacticos over the NSICMS. But the superiority of Tacticos is irrelevant to the FAP. The requirement of the Procurement Law (RA 9184) is for the PN TWG to rate competing systems as either PASS or FAIL. The Law did not say “choose the best product.” The PN TWG headed by VAdm Mercado himself rated both Tacticos and NSICMS as PASS. This is clearly indicated in the contract. Senator Recto’s statement during the Senate hearing, “Pagbigyan na natin sila sa kanilang gusto,” cannot be considered as this would exceed the authorized budget and therefore violate  RA 9184.

    You also said, “Faced with these uncertainties, our PN Technical Team is right in choosing Thales Tacticos which has proven performance. Any other CMS that has not been well tested just increases the risk to our frigates.” Again, I refer you to Section 18, Revised IRR of RA 9184 – Reference to Brand Names: “Specification for procurement of goods shall be based on relevant characteristics, functionality and/or performance requirements. Reference to brand names shall not be allowed, except for items or parts that are compatible with the existing fleet or equipment of the same make and brand, to maintain the performance, functionality and useful life of equipment.”
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 05, 2018, 07:44:16 AM
 The Frigate Acquisition Project has spawn so many side-discussions it is now impractical to merge all of these threads into a single master thread. For that reason, this thread is being turned into a thread index. Discussions that are central to the procurement of the first frigate will remain here. But the various side discussions will be discussed in the their respective threads.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 05, 2018, 07:22:30 PM
DND body approves design of Navy frigate project
By Priam Nepomuceno April 5, 2018, 10:18 pm

http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1031022

MANILA -- A committee under the Department of National Defense (DND) has approved the Critical Design Review (CDR) of its PHP18-billion Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) which is under contract with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the Philippine Navy confirmed Thursday.

PN spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), headed by Commodore Alberto Carlos, approved the CDR of the project last March 23.

The CDR was handed to the TIAC last January. It will serve as the "bible" of the shipbuilder while constructing the frigates.

Lincuna said the TIAC acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a major milestone for the project which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI.

These drawings shall then be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.

The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting which will likely be held on April 30 at HHI Complex, Ulsan, South Korea which will be attended by a delegation from the DND/PN to mark this important event.

It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana as Head of Procuring Entity (HOPE), and Mr. Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president, for the construction of two new 2,600 ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare.

Lorenzana has expressed his utmost desire for the timely completion of the project.

Indeed, the completion of the CDR phase and the start of the steel cutting show that the FAP is moving forward without delays in accordance with the stipulations of the contract.

The two missile-armed frigates are expected to be delivered in 2020 which would cement the country's vision of having a strong and credible Navy. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: Invictus on April 06, 2018, 10:21:26 PM
Steel cutting for 2 frigates starts April 30 (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1031203)
By Priam Nepomuceno  April 7, 2018, 10:25 am

MANILA -- The steel cutting for the two missile-armed frigates, which is under contract with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is expected to start on April 30.

"The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting, which will likely be held on April 30 at the HHI Complex in Ulsan, South Korea, to be attended by a delegation from DND/PN (Department of National Defense/Philippine Navy) to mark this important milestone," Navy spokesperson, Capt. Lued Lincuna, said Thursday.

Steel cutting signals the official start of a vessel’s construction.

The two frigates are capable of engaging air, surface and sub-surface threats. Including their weapons system and munitions, the vessels have a budget of PHP18 billion.

Earlier, a committee under the DND approved the Critical Design Review (CDR) of the Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP).

Lincuna said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), headed by Commodore Alberto Carlos, approved the CDR of the project last March 23.

The CDR, handed to the TIAC last January, will serve as the shipbuilder’s "bible" while constructing the frigates.

Lincuna said TIAC’s acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a milestone for the project, which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI.

These drawings shall be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.

It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana as head of the procuring entity, and Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president, for the construction of two new 2,600-ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 07, 2018, 09:38:33 AM
Putting this timeline into perspective.

Steel cutting for 2 frigates starts April 30 (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1031203)
By Priam Nepomuceno  April 7, 2018, 10:25 am

MANILA -- The steel cutting for the two missile-armed frigates, which is under contract with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is expected to start on April 30.

Here is the original timeline

Where we ought to be by now

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This is where we stand now

Milestone     Description     Details
           
Critical Design Review     Approval and submission of Plan and Detail Design for the project

Purchase order of steel / major equipment
     Completed March 23, 2018 under Commodore Alberto Carlos. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10397#msg10397).

Original schedule: 10 months after issuance of NTP


               
Steel Cutting Frigate 1     At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 1 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 1 completed
     Scheduled for April 30, 2018. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10407#msg10407).

Original schedule: 12 months after issuance of NTP


               
Steel Cutting Frigate 2        At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 2 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed
        n/a

Original schedule: 18 months after issuance of NTP


               
Keel Laying Frigate 1        Completion of at least two blocks of Frigate 1

Delivery of major equipment identified during design review
        n/a

Original schedule: 20 months after issuance of NTP


Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 11, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
HHI frigates to boost Navy capability to protect maritime domains
By Priam Nepomuceno April 11, 2018, 11:22 am

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1031516

MANILA -- The arrival of the two missile-armed frigates, to be built by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is expected to greatly boost the Philippine Navy’s (PN) capability to protect its territorial waters.

"The two warships (upon delivery) will certainly enhance the capability of the PN to guard the Philippine maritime territory and its exclusive economic zone," Navy spokesperson, Capt. Lued Lincuna, said Tuesday.

The two frigates, which are designed to be capable of engaging surface, subsurface, and air threats, and electronic warfare, are worth PHP18 billion including their weapons system and munitions.

They are expected to be delivered in 2020 and 2021. Earlier, Lincuna said that steel-cutting for the two ships is expected to start on April 30.

"The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting, which will likely be held on April 30 at the HHI Complex in Ulsan, South Korea, to be attended by a delegation from DND/PN (Department of National Defense/Philippine Navy) to mark this important milestone," he said.

Steel cutting signals the official start of a vessel’s construction.

Earlier, a committee under the DND approved the Critical Design Review (CDR) of the Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP).
Lincuna said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), headed by Commodore Alberto Carlos, approved the CDR of the project last March 23.

The CDR, handed to the TIAC last January, will serve as the shipbuilder’s "bible" while constructing the frigates.

Lincuna said the TIAC’s acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a milestone for the project, which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI. These drawings shall be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.

It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana - as head of the procuring entity, and Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president.

The contract is for the construction of two new 2,600-ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 18, 2018, 08:49:48 PM
Did the steel cutting schedule slip?  :o

DSA 2018: Hanwha defends with Naval Shield CMS
19th April 2018 - 00:30 GMT | by Gordon Arthur in Kuala Lumpur

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digital-battlespace/dsa-2018-hanwha-defends-naval-shield-cms/

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The first steel cutting on the initial frigate for the Philippines is scheduled to take place in July, Kim revealed. This frigate should be delivered to the PN before the end of 2019.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 19, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
Reportedly still set for the end of the month. Looks like the alternative date above is a typo.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on April 19, 2018, 12:59:24 AM
based also on the statement, it will also be delivered in 2019, earlier than 2020 previously mentioned..
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 26, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
Reportedly still set for the end of the month. Looks like the alternative date above is a typo.

Three days and counting
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 27, 2018, 07:03:00 AM
Via shoulder tap:

"Philippine delegation expected to arrive in HHI tomorrow Saturday...everything is set for steel cutting on 30

Acquisition Decision Memorandum for Frigate Lot 2 (SAM,SSM) has been signed by SND

Frigate Lot 3 (torpedo,chaffs decoys) is to be.presented to PNDAS cluster for inclusion in Horizon 2"
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: redcomet_m on April 27, 2018, 08:30:18 AM
^is there clearance to reveal possible contenders?
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 27, 2018, 12:49:29 PM
^is there clearance to reveal possible contenders?

The DND, and vendors authorized by the DND, are the official sources of that level of information.

Anyone who shares that information outside of official channels is one of the following:

- In violation of orders
- Parties with vested interest
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on April 29, 2018, 11:53:17 PM
S. Korea, Philippines vow close military ties
2018-04-30 14:51

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2018/04/30/0301000000AEN20180430007400315.html

See also: https://twitter.com/adroth_ph/status/990848360474034176

SEOUL, April 30 (Yonhap) -- The defense chiefs of South Korea and the Philippines agreed Monday to move forward security and defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to Seoul's Ministry of National Defense.

Filipino Defense Secretary Delfin N. Lorenzana came to Korea to attend the steel cutting ceremony for two frigates the Southeast Asian country has ordered.

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South Korean Defense Minister Song Young-moo (R) shakes hands with his Filipino counterpart Delfin N. Lorenzana in Seoul on April 30, 2018, in this photo released by Song`s office. (Yonhap)


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Here is the original timeline. Next milestone . . . keel laying 8 months after.

Where we ought to be by now

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 01, 2018, 07:43:31 AM
Hyundai Heavy Industries to start construction of PH Navy’s frigate
By: Frances G. Mangosing - @inquirerdotnet INQUIRER.net / 07:39 PM
May 01, 2018


South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries will finally start the construction of the Philippine Navy’s first missile-capable frigate, one of the country’s biggest military modernization projects worth P18 billion.

The steel-cutting ceremony was held on Monday at the company’s headquarters in Ulsan, South Korea’s state media Yonhap News reported.

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Milestone     Description     Details
           
Critical Design Review     Approval and submission of Plan and Detail Design for the project

Purchase order of steel / major equipment
     Completed March 23, 2018 under Commodore Alberto Carlos. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10397#msg10397).

Original schedule: 10 months after issuance of NTP


               
Steel Cutting Frigate 1     At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 1 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 1 completed
     May 1, 2018.

               
Steel Cutting Frigate 2        At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 2 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed. ETA September. Three months ahead of the original six months schedule.
        n/a

Original schedule: 18 months after issuance of NTP, 6 months from Steel cutting of Frigate #1


               
Keel Laying Frigate 1        Completion of at least two blocks of Frigate 1

Delivery of major equipment identified during design review
        n/a

Original schedule: 20 months after issuance of NTP



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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 01, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Frigates Launch Puts Philippines-South Korea Defense Relations into Focus
A recent trip once again put the spotlight on the defense collaboration underway between the two countries.

By Prashanth Parameswaran
May 02, 2018
     
https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/frigates-launch-puts-philippines-south-korea-defense-relations-into-focus/
 
This week, Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana was in South Korea for a bilateral visit. Lorenzana’s trip once again put the spotlight on the defense collaboration underway between the two countries.

As I have noted before in these pages, South Korea has been a key partner for the Philippines as it attempts to boost its limited defense capabilities. Though the defense relationship has been growing in other areas too, the aspect that receives the most public attention is the defense deals that Seoul has been involved in, be it the transfer of 12 FA-50 fighter jets to Manila by state-owned Korea Aerospace Industries or the sale of two frigates from Hyundai Heavy Industries, which had been one of the biggest line items in Philippine military modernization.

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South Korea’s defense ministry said that Lorenzana’s meeting with his South Korean counterpart Song Young-moo also saw the two countries touch on other bilateral and regional defense issues. Bilaterally, both sides pledged to continue their collaboration on defense equipment and other related areas, a general articulation that avoided the specifics that might have stoked further controversy.

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 01, 2018, 02:51:42 PM
Now we know the HHI hull number "P159" came from. It for "Project 159"

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 01, 2018, 11:49:50 PM
The Korean press release

http://www.hhi.co.kr/Public/pub01_2?page=1&ndate=2018-05-02&bidx=2637&seek=&SearchName=

현대重, 필리핀 최신예 호위함 건조 착수

2018-05-02페이스북트위터
필리핀 호위함 착공식

- 2016년 필리핀에서 수주한 2천600톤급 2척 중 1번함 착공
- 태풍과 열대성 기후 등 거친 해상 조건에서도 작전 수행 가능
- 2021년 상반기까지 필리핀 국방부에 2척 인도 예정

현대중공업이 필리핀에서 수주한 최신예 호위함의 본격적인 건조에 들어갔습니다.

현대중공업은 1일(화) 울산 본사에서 강환구 사장과 델핀 로렌자나(Delfin Lorenzana) 필리핀 국방부 장관, 레이문도 엘레판테(Raymundo Elefante) 필리핀 국방부 차관, 로버트 임페드라(Robert Empedrad) 필리핀 해군 참모총장 등이 참석한 가운데 2천600톤급(배수량) 호위함의 착공식을 가졌습니다.

이날 착공한 함정은 현대중공업이 지난 2016년 10월 필리핀 국방부로부터 수주한 2척의 동형 호위함 중 첫 번째로, 길이 107미터, 폭 12미터 규모의 다목적 전투함입니다.

이 호위함은 최대 25노트(약 46㎞/h)로 4천500해리 이상의 항속거리를 보유해 원해 순시 임무를 수행할 수 있습니다.

특히 태풍과 열대성 기후 등 필리핀의 거친 해상 조건에서도 우수한 작전 성능과 생존성을 갖도록 설계됐습니다.

또한 76㎜ 함포와 함대공 미사일, 어뢰, 헬리콥터 등 다양한 무기체계를 탑재해 대공(對空), 대잠(對潛) 작전을 두루 수행할 수 있습니다.

현대중공업은 이날 착공함 호위함을 내년 5월에 진수해 2020년 하반기에 필리핀 국방부에 인도하고, 두 번째 호위함은 올해 9월 착공해 2021년 상반기에 인도할 예정입니다.

한편, 현대중공업은 지난 1980년 12월 한국 최초의 전투함인 ‘울산함’을 건조한 이후 지금까지 이지스함과 KDX-Ⅱ 구축함, 초계·호위함, 잠수함 등 한국 해군의 주력 함정을 건조했으며, 필리핀을 비롯해 뉴질랜드, 방글라데시, 베네수엘라 등 해외에서도 다수의 함정을 수주한 바 있습니다.


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Google translation. Free beer for the translation that's just . . . wrong  ;D

Hyundai Heavy started construction of the latest frigate in the Philippines

2018-05-02 FaceBook Twitter
Filipino escort ceremony ceremony

- Started construction of 1 out of 2 2,600-ton class orders received in the Philippines in 2016
- Operate in rough sea conditions such as typhoon and tropical climate
Two ships will be delivered to the Philippine Ministry of Defense by the first half of 2021

Hyundai Heavy Industries entered into full-scale construction of its latest escort, which was awarded in the Philippines.

Hyundai Heavy Industries Co., Ltd. (HHI), headquartered in Ulsan, will be headquartered in Gangwon-Gu, Delfin Lorenzana, Philippine Minister of Defense, Raymundo Elefante, Philippine Deputy Secretary of Defense, and Robert Empedrad, Philippine Navy's Chief of Staff And attended the groundbreaking ceremony of the 2,600-ton class (displacement) frigate in attendance.

It is the first multi-purpose battleship with a length of 107 meters and a width of 12 meters, the first of two homosexual frigates that Hyundai Heavy Industries has received from the Philippine Ministry of Defense in October 2016.

This frigate can hold up to 25 knots (46 km / h) with a range of 4,500 nautical miles or more, which means that you can carry out your mission at will.

Designed for superior operational performance and survivability, especially in harsh marine conditions in the Philippines, including typhoons and tropical climate.

In addition, it can carry out both anti-air and anti-submarine operations by installing various weapons systems such as 76mm guns, ship-to-air missiles, torpedoes, and helicopters.

Hyundai Heavy Industries will start construction of the fleet in May next year and deliver it to the Philippine Ministry of Defense in the second half of 2020. The second fleet will begin construction in September this year and deliver it in the first half of 2021.

Meanwhile, Hyundai Heavy Industries built Korea's first naval vessel "Ulsan Hamm" in December 1980, and since then has built the main naval vessels such as Aegis ship, KDX-II destroyer, helicopter, frigate and submarine. New Zealand, Bangladesh, and Venezuela.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 02, 2018, 09:40:34 PM
Hyundai cuts steel for Philippine Navy’s first HDF-3000 frigate
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
01 May 2018

http://www.janes.com/article/79726/hyundai-cuts-steel-for-philippine-navy-s-first-hdf-3000-frigate

Key Points

- Hyundai has begun work on the first of two new frigates on order for the Philippine Navy
- Service is expected to receive the first frigate in the second half of 2020

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has held a steel-cutting ceremony for the first of two 107 m frigates on order for the Philippine Navy (PN).

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: LionFlyer on May 03, 2018, 07:57:40 AM
..the first of two homosexual frigates that Hyundai Heavy Industries has received from the Philippine Ministry of Defense in October 2016.
That's just wrong.
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 03, 2018, 08:41:12 AM
..the first of two homosexual frigates that Hyundai Heavy Industries has received from the Philippine Ministry of Defense in October 2016.
That's just wrong.

Heh . . . yep  ;D

Shamelessly borrowing from Dr Demented’s reaction on the mod-only forum: "I guess we’re only going to have two frigates, unless we’re open to adoption"
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: WApinoy2 on May 05, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
This is an interesting weapon simulation for the New PN Frigate showing ranges of weapon and sonar detections.

https://youtu.be/DwNFCqRc0iw (https://youtu.be/DwNFCqRc0iw)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on May 26, 2018, 04:11:25 PM
Video from the 120th PN anniversary

From: https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/videos/2147378628656129/

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: dr demented on June 21, 2018, 01:36:05 AM
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1038979

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Navy to get additional missile-armed frigates

By Priam Nepomuceno June 21, 2018, 3:46 pm

MANILA -- Aside from the two missile-armed frigates now undergoing construction at Hyundai Heavy Industries in South Korea, the Philippine Navy (PN) will be getting additional ships of the same class, Defense spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said Wednesday.

Acquisition for these additional frigates will start during Horizon Two of the Revised Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Program (RAFPMP), which is scheduled for 2018 to 2022 and has a budget of roughly PHP300 billion.

"In the PN, you will find this interesting. Aside from the two frigates that are currently being constructed, kukuha pa tayo ng additional (frigates)," Andolong said.

He, however, acknowledged that he has no idea how much money would be provided for the acquisition of these additional frigates.

"Yun ang hindi ko pa alam, dahil siyempre iba-budget, ia-apportion pa yung PHP300 billion (That is what I do not know yet. It's because there will be a budget allocation. The PHP300 billion will be apportioned)," he stressed.

The two frigates being built by Hyundai Heavy Industries has a contract of PHP18 billion, including its weapon systems and munitions.

It is designed to be capable of engaging air, surface and sub-surface threats. Deliveries are expected to start by 2020 and end on 2021. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on September 18, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
Milestone     Description     Details
           
Critical Design Review     Approval and submission of Plan and Detail Design for the project

Purchase order of steel / major equipment
     Completed March 23, 2018 under Commodore Alberto Carlos. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10397#msg10397).

Original schedule: 10 months after issuance of NTP


               
Steel Cutting Frigate 1     At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 1 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 1 completed
     May 1, 2018.

               
Steel Cutting Frigate 2        At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 2 received / available on site of builder

Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed. ETA September. Three months ahead of the original six months schedule.
        September, 2018


               
Keel Laying Frigate 1        Completion of at least two blocks of Frigate 1

Delivery of major equipment identified during design review
        n/a

Original schedule: 20 months after issuance of NTP


Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 16, 2018, 08:31:06 AM
Shoulder-tap confirms: Keel-laying of P159 is complete

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Title: Keel laying of Frigate #1 (P159)
Post by: adroth on October 16, 2018, 06:12:04 PM
The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) for the Philippine Navy (PN) has reached another milestone through the Keel Laying Ceremony for the Frigate 1 on October 16, 2018, 10 o’clock in the morning at Ulsan, South Korea.

https://www.facebook.com/philippinenavy/posts/10156018639992956

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Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: adroth on October 18, 2018, 05:48:06 PM
Keel-laying for 1st PH missile-armed frigate now a done deal
By Priam Nepomuceno  October 17, 2018, 5:37 pm

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1051290

MANILA — The Philippine Navy (PN) announced that the keel-laying ceremony for one of two missile-armed frigates, contracted to Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), formally took place in Ulsan, South Korea Tuesday.

Commander Jonathan Zata, Navy spokesperson, on Wednesday said the ceremony, which took place at 10 a.m. (Korea time), was attended by PN flag-officer-in-command, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad; Defense Acquisition Office director Leodegario Decena Dela Paz; Naval Sea Systems chief, Rear Admiral Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo; Offshore Combat Force head; Commodore Caesar Bernard Valencia; and PN project supervisor, Capt. Sergio Bartolome.

Also present was HHI senior vice president Yun Kong Yong.

The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16-billion contract for two missile-armed frigates with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.

Projected delivery date of the first frigate is by 2020 while the second one is in 2021.

“The ceremony was conducted at the building dock number 6 of the Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division of HHI. Three blocks of the first PN frigate (with HHI Project Number 159) was installed on the dock,” Bartolome added.

Keel-laying formally marks the start of the ship's construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel life with the other three being launching, commissioning and decommissioning.

The keel is also considered the backbone of any ship and breaking it will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft.

Steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Post by: hotandwild on October 24, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Progress steady in construction of PH Navy's first missile frigate

By Priam Nepomuceno, October 24, 2018, 12:46 pm

MANILA -- The Philippine Navy said the construction of the country's first missile-armed frigate is steadily progressing.

"(The construction of) our (first) frigate is moving forward. It will arrive in February (or) March of 2020. All systems go and we should be happy for our country," Navy flag-officer-in-command, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad, said during an interview with reporters late Monday.

The keel-laying for the frigate took place in Ulsan, South Korea last October 16.

The Philippines and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) signed a PHP16 billion contract for two missile-armed frigates, with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.

The projected delivery date for the first frigate is in 2020 and the second in 2021.

“The ceremony was conducted at Building Dock No. 6 of the Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division of HHI. Three blocks of the first PN frigate (with HHI Project No. 159) was installed on the dock,” Capt. Sergio Bartolome, the Navy officer supervising the project, earlier said.

Keel-laying signals the start of the ship's construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel's life, the other three being the launch, commissioning and decommissioning.

The keel is considered the backbone of any ship and breaking or destroying it will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft. The steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)

http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1051963 (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1051963)