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General Discussion => AFP Modernization & Defense Acquisitions => : dr demented October 06, 2016, 09:56:11 PM

: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: dr demented October 06, 2016, 09:56:11 PM
http://www.janes.com/article/64358/philippines-set-to-re-launch-bid-to-acquire-close-air-support-aircraft

Philippines set to re-launch bid to acquire close-air support aircraft
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
05 October 2016

The Philippine Air Force (PAF) is preparing to launch its fourth bid in two years to procure close-air support (CAS) aircraft, IHS Jane's understands.

A source confirmed on 4 October that the PAF is scheduled to issue another request for proposals (RFP) in the coming months and that the programme is expected to be competed for by two aircraft: the Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano and Beechcraft T-6 Texan II, a US version of the Swiss Pilatus PC-9 Advanced Turbo Trainer.

IHS Jane's understands from PAF officials that the Super Tucano is the preferred platform.

Previously published tender documents show that the programme features the acquisition of six CAS aircraft and an accompanying logistics support package for PHP4.9 billion (USD101 million).

The project was launched in 2014 but has repeatedly failed at the bidding stage due partly to specifications that have disqualified potential candidates. For instance, Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) KT-1C, an armed version of the KT-1 Woong-Bee trainer, did not meet payload requirements.

It is believed that other candidates have failed due to the requirements of the Philippine defence procurement process. A particular stumbling block has been the stipulation, outlined in tender documents, for the successful supplier to already have exported its product to the armed forces in the country of origin or used by the armed forces of at least two foreign countries.

This requirement is one of the main reasons why the Super Tucano is considered in Manila as the favoured option. As well as meeting technical requirements, the aircraft is operated by the Brazilian Air Force as well as several foreign air forces, including those in Indonesia, Colombia, Chile and Ecuador.

A source told IHS Jane's that the RFP is expected to be issued "very soon". Recent delays in the programme, he said, were due to changes in administration in the Philippines.
: Re: Philippines set to re-launch bid to acquire close-air support aircraft
: LionFlyer December 30, 2016, 09:13:08 PM
Close Air Support (CAS) Aircraft Invitation to Bid documents (ITB) has been released (again) under DND's SBAC website.

Pre-Bid Conference: 11 Jan 2017
Bid Opening: 27 Jan 2017

*suggest to rename the title of this thread to "PAF Close Air Support (CAS) Aircraft programme"
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: adroth December 31, 2016, 12:11:32 AM
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: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: LionFlyer December 31, 2016, 05:04:19 AM
If my memory serves me right, the previous bid was not awarded because the proponent (Embraer) was unable to meet the delivery schedules.

This new bid did not change the total duration of 730 days (2 years) from NTP, but it appears that they had removed the requirement to deliver 3 planes by 530 days.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: adroth January 03, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
DND allocates PHP4.9-B for acquisition of 6 CASA
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MANILA, Jan. 3 (PNA) -- With its Rockwell OV-10 "Bronco" attack aircraft now past its prime, the Department of National Defense (DND) has allocated the sum of PHP4,968,000,000 for the acquisition of six brand-new close-air support planes for the Philippine Air Force.
Funds will be sourced from the Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Act Trust Fund.

Interested bidders must be able to deliver the aircraft with the corresponding initial logistics support package.

"These aircraft shall be capable of performing close-air support air operations during day and night. The guiding principles for this project shall be based on affordability and sustainability while conforming to the requirements of the Philippine Air Force in furtherance of accomplishing its mission," the DND said in its bid bulletin.

Pre-bid conference is scheduled on Jan. 11, 10 a.m. at the DND Bids and Awards Committee Conference Room, Right Wing, DND Building, Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City.

Close-air support aircraft are used to help troops in heavy contact with enemy forces.
It is done by providing covering rocket fire to the engaged units or bombing positions of hostile units.
Currently, these missions are being conducted by the OV-10s and sometimes by specially converted SIAI-Marchetti SF-260 trainer planes. (PNA)

BNB/PFN
Source:
http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=1&sid=&nid=1&rid=952362
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: LionFlyer January 06, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
The bid documents have been removed from the DND - SBAC website.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: sirius January 11, 2017, 01:41:33 PM
According to the document, the bidding should have happened today, but there doesn't seem to be any articles written about it quite yet. I'm interested in knowing who the bidders are this time around.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: 40niner January 11, 2017, 03:41:28 PM
^ Yesterday was a Pre-bid Conference, where interested bidders/suppliers can ask official questions regarding the ITB from the BAC. Questions and answers are usually published in written form to official become part of the documentation process.

Opening / Submission of sealed bids is scheduled for Jan 27 -- unless again pushed to another date.

Close Air Support (CAS) Aircraft Invitation to Bid documents (ITB) has been released (again) under DND's SBAC website.

Pre-Bid Conference: 11 Jan 2017
Bid Opening: 27 Jan 2017


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Notables who are among those who had requested / bought official bid docs included, but not limited to :
- Beechcraft Defense
- Embraer S.A.
- Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI)
- Lockheed Martin Global, Inc.
- Airbus Defense and Space
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: El_Filibusterismo1978 January 12, 2017, 05:30:18 PM
pardon my ignorance, but what does Airbus CASA bring to the table.. 
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: miggye January 13, 2017, 08:37:08 AM
pardon my ignorance, but what does Airbus CASA bring to the table..

SOCATA is a subsidiary of Airbus which makes turbo-prop aircraft. their current trainer/light attack product is the TB30 Epsilon.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: sirius January 13, 2017, 09:55:15 AM
^ Yesterday was a Pre-bid Conference, where interested bidders/suppliers can ask official questions regarding the ITB from the BAC. Questions and answers are usually published in written form to official become part of the documentation process.

Opening / Submission of sealed bids is scheduled for Jan 27 -- unless again pushed to another date.

Close Air Support (CAS) Aircraft Invitation to Bid documents (ITB) has been released (again) under DND's SBAC website.

Pre-Bid Conference: 11 Jan 2017
Bid Opening: 27 Jan 2017


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Notables who are among those who had requested / bought official bid docs included, but not limited to :
- Beechcraft Defense
- Embraer S.A.
- Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI)
- Lockheed Martin Global, Inc.
- Airbus Defense and Space

Thanks sir for the clarification. I hope Pilatus chooses to enter the PC-21.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: El_Filibusterismo1978 January 15, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
Socata TB-30 Epsilon Military Trainer Aircraft, France


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/socata-tb-30-epsilon-military-trainer-aircraft/socata-tb-30-epsilon-military-trainer-aircraft3.html
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: LionFlyer February 09, 2017, 06:20:10 AM
http://www.dnd.gov.ph/transparency/procurement/DND_SBAC/2017/SBB/SBB%20NR%20DND-AFP-CASA-17-02-002.pdf

The bid opening has been postponed, indefinitely. The circus continues.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Kylyne February 09, 2017, 08:00:46 AM
I simply hope that the postponement is not because someone or some group believes that we no longer need these planes because the FA-50s have already shown its teeth.  :(
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: SG99n1 February 10, 2017, 09:03:46 PM
I do hope its not because someone has been ordered to look for CAS in Russia or China..
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Juramentado February 10, 2017, 10:18:50 PM
No the problem is closer to home. Some domestic players are making life difficult.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: adroth February 11, 2017, 08:45:11 AM
No the problem is closer to home. Some domestic players are making life difficult.

"Close" is an understatement. :-)
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Juramentado February 11, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
I just wonder how they managed to finagle a slot if both seats were already occupied.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Manokski March 24, 2017, 05:57:32 AM
Are we now seeing 6 FA50s as the direct replacement for the 6 CAS aircraft?
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Juramentado March 24, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Are we now seeing 6 FA50s as the direct replacement for the 6 CAS aircraft?

Seems that way. But what is the status of the KAI T-50 production line after they fulfill the RTAF order? I don't know of any customers beyond that. I believe the RoKAF order is complete, and since they're able to show that they can punch out FA-50s on more than two a quarter pace, that's not a lot of time to negotiate more.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Mokong March 24, 2017, 06:18:36 PM
Are we now seeing 6 FA50s as the direct replacement for the 6 CAS aircraft?

I dont think so. The AFP may be utilizing its A-G capabilities while awaiting the CAS-A.
IMHO, it is still to expensive as compared to a truboprop that could loiter at much longer times with a sufficient load for local threats.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Manokski March 25, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
Are we now seeing 6 FA50s as the direct replacement for the 6 CAS aircraft?

I dont think so. The AFP may be utilizing its A-G capabilities while awaiting the CAS-A.
IMHO, it is still to expensive as compared to a truboprop that could loiter at much longer times with a sufficient load for local threats.

Preaching to the choir. We know that. But oftentimes politics displaces logic. Or maybe in this case overrides planning. 18 FA50s may be cheaper than 12 FA50s plus 6 close air support aircraft when you factor in the cost of maintaining two different training streams, different maintenance streams, different stores units. Maintaining too many aircraft types will overall be more expensive. Then there is the bird in hand effect. More FA50 might politically be easier to get than a whole new aircraft. Especially if you can fully outfit the jets with all the pods and weapons she can carry.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: LionFlyer March 25, 2017, 05:45:40 PM
Consider the fact that the CAS mission is split across multiple platforms now, from the FA50, OV-10 and AW109/MD520s and with the calls to buy more attack helicopters, a prospective, dedicated OV10 replacement that had been aborted numerous would be a target

Simply put, if it is to drop some munitions on ASG, there are options today, without another new platform
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Mokong March 25, 2017, 10:57:18 PM
F-35 logic.

Its not optimized for anything.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: LionFlyer April 22, 2017, 11:28:33 PM
And it continues...

Pre-bid conference set at 3 May.

http://www.dnd.gov.ph/transparency/procurement/DND_SBAC/2017/SBB/SBB%20NR%2017-04-002.pdf
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: israeli April 24, 2017, 01:50:28 AM
And it continues...

Pre-bid conference set at 3 May.

http://www.dnd.gov.ph/transparency/procurement/DND_SBAC/2017/SBB/SBB%20NR%2017-04-002.pdf

i guess the rescheduling of the pre-bid conference is due to April 28 being declared a non-working holiday in Metro Manila in time for the ASEAN Summit.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Juramentado April 24, 2017, 06:56:15 AM
Well, the FX decline hasn't helped any of these projects (FAP, CAS, LRPA, etc). The government might want to think of taking the extreme of buying and reserving USD currency in advance to protect project ABCs from currency volatility. Some projects are getting off the rails partly because the effective ABC is less than at bid winning.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: adroth April 24, 2017, 02:48:49 PM
Reference Number   4278100

https://philgeps.gov.ph/GEPSNONPILOT/Tender/SplashBidNoticeAbstractUI.aspx?menuIndex=3&refID=4278100&DirectFrom=OpenOpp&Type=agency&BusCatID=0

Procuring Entity   DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENSE - PROCUREMENT UNIT
  Title   Invitation to Bid for the Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
  Area of Delivery          Printable Version
Solicitation Number:   Invitation to Bid Close Air Support Aircraft Acqui
Trade Agreement:   Implementing Rules and Regulations
Procurement Mode:   Public Bidding
Classification:   Goods
Category:   Aviation Products
Approved Budget for the Contract:   PHP 4,968,000,000.00
Delivery Period:   0 Day/s

Last Updated / Time   21-Apr-2017 5:19 PM
Closing Date / Time   24-May-2017 10:00 AM

Description

The Department of National Defense / Armed Forces of the Philippines (DND/AFP), through the AFP Modernization Act Trust Fund (RA 10349 "Revised AFP Modernization Program" dated 11 December 2012) intends to apply the sum of FOUR BILLION NINE HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT MILLION PHILIPPINE PESOS (4,968,000,000.00) being the Approved Budget for the Contract (ABC) to payments under the contract for the Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project. Bids received in excess of the ABC shall be automatically rejected at bid opening.

The DND/AFP now invites bids for the Acquisition of six (6) Close Air Support Aircraft with the corresponding Initial Logistics Support (ILS) package. These aircraft shall be capable of performing Close Air Support air operations during day and night. The guiding principles for this project shall be based on affordability and sustainability while conforming to the requirements of the Philippine Air Force in furtherance of accomplishing its mission.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: Ayoshi June 15, 2017, 11:11:44 PM
Philippine CAS aircraft bid edges forward | Shephard Media (https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-notes/philippine-cas-aircraft-bid-edges-forward/) - 13th June 2017
A pre-bid conference held last month witnessed three vendors attending: Embraer proffering the EMB 314 Super Tucano, Beechcraft with its AT-6B Texan II Wolverine and Aero Vodochody pushing its L-39NG.

Others such as the TAI’s Hürkųs from Turkey and the KAI KA-1 from South Korea had expressed interest but decided not to enter a bid. Air Tractor, which was promoting its AT-802U at ADAS 2016, also appears to have decided not to enter.

Aero Vodochody was planning to offer six new L-39NG aircraft and two refurbished L-39 Albatross trainers upgraded to the same standard. However, the Czech company submitted no bid, therefore leaving Embraer and Beechcraft to slug it out.

However, the Philippines declared that Beechcraft’s eligibility and technical component of the bid did not met requirements, and so it was disqualified. This left Embraer as the single lowest calculated compliant bidder.
: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: adroth July 28, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
PAF to get 6 more aircraft
Posted on Thursday Jul 27th at 8:00pm

http://m.philstar.com/314191/show/6fd2af743190cd58d2bbd237fc4a2552/

MANILA, Philippines - Six Brazilian-made close-air support aircraft with night flying capabilities will be the latest additions to the Philippine Air Force (PAF)’s air muscle.

The acquisition of the six new A-29 Super Tucano aircraft is part of the PAF’s ongoing modernization, which also involves the purchase of more FA50 lead-in trainer fighter jets from South Korea.

After several delays, post qualification inspections of the aircraft are now being done in Brazil. Embraer Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd. bagged the P4.9-billion defense contract. The delivery of the aircraft is still being finalized.

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: Re: Retitled: Close Air Support Aircraft Acquisition Project
: AeroOne July 30, 2017, 12:54:56 AM
finally some light in the end of the tunnel. hopefully we can also sort out the LRPA issue too.