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Title: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 04, 2017, 02:50:39 AM
https://www.kdia.or.kr/eng/4/1/memProduction_view.do?production_id=20141024094638115100


Company   Hanwha Systems Co., Ltd.
Hompage   http://www.hanwhasystems.com/front/main/main.do
Tel   02-729-3030
E-mail   sstc@samsung.com

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 04, 2017, 05:40:33 AM
Thales to sell 50% stake in Samsung joint venture

By Korea Herald
Published : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35 Updated : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150309001015
      
Thales, Europe’s biggest defense electronics company, plans to sell its 50 percent stake in Samsung Thales to the company’s new owner Hanwha Group, multiple sources said Monday.

“An official announcement is imminent as their talks are being finalized,” said a source familiar with the matter.

“Thales considers Hanwha less attractive as a partner. For the same reason, Total is also looking to sell its stake in its joint venture with Samsung.”

Samsung Thales is a 50-50 joint venture between Samsung and Thales established in 2001. It has engaged in the design and development of digital defense technologies and systems.

The alleged sell-off plan comes after Samsung announced in November it would sell four chemical and defense units to Hanwha, a South Korean family-run conglomerate, in a deal estimated at 1.9 trillion won ($1.72 billion).

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“But Hanwha is little known outside Korea, except for some presence in the Middle East,” he said, adding that Thales will continue its Korean business through its regional unit.

Another source said the Thales management was also greatly disappointed with Samsung’s surprise announcement of the Hanwha deal.

“A Thales executive from the French headquarters said they were informed about the deal one day before the official announcement in Seoul,” he said.

Following the departure of foreign partners, industry watchers predict that Hanwha could experience financial pressure when its resources are already tight from funding the Samsung deal.

“But in the longer term, the financial burden would be relieved considering the generous dividends that have been offered to the foreign shareholders,” said a market analyst who wished to be unnamed due to the sensitivity of the issue.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 04, 2017, 06:19:36 AM
Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
SEOUL, KOREA
28 July 2016 - 11:00am

http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales

Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.

When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.

Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).

Hanwha Thales is the nation’s first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics’ defense unit and France’s Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.

Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales’ decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 04, 2017, 02:31:32 PM
From: http://www.cambridgepixel.com/files/CaseStudies/cs_stc.pdf

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 06, 2017, 07:09:14 AM
From: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ffx-koreas-new-frigates-05239/

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 20, 2017, 10:37:39 PM
Time to capture this so that folks can contrast this with what ACTUALLY comes out. Two dates to note:

October 20, 2017 (US Pacific Time): When this article came out
June 2017: The date of a critical conference that key folks were not invited to . . . resulting in memes being created in social media.

The following was posted on the forum's FB extension here:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1463320303753812&ref=m_notif&notif_t=like

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 21, 2017, 03:05:29 PM
https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1463320303753812&ref=m_notif&notif_t=like

Point by point rebuttals are not possible at this time. This is something long-time forum members who are privy to the details of the project all agree on this point.

However . . . there is one small point that can be can be given a response. Folks are free to put things together themselves.

Note this is not argument for and against Naval Shield. But facts are facts.

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From the AFP Modernization Law

[REPUBLIC ACT NO. 10349]

AN ACT AMENDING REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7898, ESTABLISHING THE REVISED AFP MODERNIZATION PROGRAM AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the Philippines in Congress assembled:

SECTION 1. Section 4(b), (d) and (e) of Republic Act No. 7898, otherwise known as the “AFP Modernization Act”, is hereby amended to read as follows:

“SEC. 4. Components of the Revised AFP Modernization Program. – The Revised AFP Modernization Program shall consist of the following components:

“(a) x x x

“(b) Capability, materiel, and technology development – The AFP Modernization Program entails the development and employment of certain capabilities that can address the assessed threats: Provided, That the acquisition of air force, navy and army equipment and materiel of such types and quantities shall be made in accordance with the need to develop AFP capabilities pursuant, to its modernization objectives: Provided, further, That the acquisition of new equipment and weapons systems shall be synchronized with the phase-out of uneconomical and obsolete major equipment and weapons systems in the AFP inventory: Provided, even further, That no major equipment and weapons system shall be purchased if the same are not being used by the armed forces in the country of origin OR used by the armed forces of at least two countries: Provided, furthermore, That only offers from suppliers who are themselves the manufacturers shall be entertained: Provided, finally, That no supply contract shall be entered into unless such contract provides for, in clear and unambiguous terms, an after-sales services and the availability of spare parts.


From one of the SBBs for the Frigate Acquisition Project

The Philippine Navy Frigate Acquisition Project, specifically Supplemental Bid Bulletin #DND/PN-FAP-16-01, described the PN's preferred CMS as follows:

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 25, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
The following was shared on the forum's FB extension.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1467451506674025/

This thesis, however, hinges on the assumption that the CMS that survives the "Hanwha Thales" split is Hanwha and not Thales.

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Background on the Hanwha-Thales split.

Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
SEOUL, KOREA
28 July 2016 - 11:00am

http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales

Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.

When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.

Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).

Hanwha Thales is the nation’s first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics’ defense unit and France’s Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.

Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales’ decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on November 01, 2017, 01:12:01 AM
Does the Hanwha - Thales split really mean that these two companies will no longer work together? Think again

Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
SEOUL, KOREA
28 July 2016 - 11:00am

http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales

Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.

When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.

Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).

Hanwha Thales is the nation’s first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics’ defense unit and France’s Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.

Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales’ decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.

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From: https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/press-release/thales-exercises-its-put-option-hanwha-thales-htc#

THALES EXERCISES ITS PUT OPTION IN HANWHA THALES (HTC)
27.07.2016

The jointly-owned company Hanwha Thales was created in 2000 by Samsung and Thales (Euronext Paris: HO) to develop the defence electronics in Korea. In June 2015, Samsung sold its defence related businesses to Hanwha. In this context, Hanwha and Thales negotiated a put/call option on Thales' shares in their jointly owned company.

Considering Hanwha and Thales respective ambitions in the Korean market today, Thales has decided to exercise its put option, for all of its shares, amounting to 50% of Hanwha Thales equity, at the price of KW288 billion (approximately €230 million). Once governmental approvals are obtained and the sale is completed, Thales shall record a cash inflow of approximately €200 million. In 2015, Hanwha Thales contributed €10 million to the EBIT of Thales.

Thales and Hanwha are keen to pursue their cooperation in multiple areas. Thales is a partner of trust of Korea and the Korean industry, in both civil and military domains.
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: 12th BCT on November 01, 2017, 03:52:06 AM
^Proof is in the pudding.

Everything at this point is pure conjecture - both from the critics of the FAP, and those who seek to defend the Frigate acquisition.

Let's see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on November 01, 2017, 04:14:43 AM
^Proof is in the pudding.

Everything at this point is pure conjecture - both from the critics of the FAP, and those who seek to defend the Frigate acquisition.

Let's see how it plays out.

We will see soon enough. In the meantime, everyone should keep their shirts on and stay calm :-)
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: 40niner on November 02, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
Images of the Multi-function console of the NS-ICMS Baseline 2 which is proposed for PN's frigate.

Images/Vid-grabs credited to NavalRecognition.Com from its MADEX 2017 South Korea Maritime Defense Exhibition Day 3 video  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLqNdUsaso&feature=youtu.be&t=3m13s).

Pls take note of timestamp on the video.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: 40niner on November 02, 2017, 10:02:51 PM
^ Pls take note that after the presentation of the current Baseline-2, @3:39 time-stamp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLqNdUsaso&feature=youtu.be&t=3m39s), the presenter also showed a more advance and newly developed trio-console for its Baseline-3, which shall be install on the under-development FFX Batch-III.
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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: mamiyapis on November 02, 2017, 10:19:30 PM
Bad news: Naval Shield ICMS baseline 2 console already being touted at MADEX 2017 for our frigates.

Good news: We're going from no CMS to a current system for the Korean and Malaysian navies.
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on November 03, 2017, 02:26:23 AM
One of the strengths of Tacticos is its open architecture. It is not married to any one set of systems. Clearly the Koreans wanted to use it a basis for their own CMS. But when does a Tacitcos-based system end, and where does a Hanwha system begin?

Note how Baseline 2 didn't show "Hanwha" in the display.

^ Pls take note that after the presentation of the current Baseline-2, @3:39 time-stamp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLqNdUsaso&feature=youtu.be&t=3m39s), the presenter also showed a more advance and newly developed trio-console for its Baseline-3, which shall be install on the under-development FFX Batch-III.
(https://i.imgur.com/1EuB1rH.jpg)

Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: 40niner on November 03, 2017, 05:56:01 AM
Bad news: Naval Shield ICMS baseline 2 console already being touted at MADEX 2017 for our frigates.

Good news: We're going from no CMS to a current system for the Korean and Malaysian navies.

I'll answer the 'misinterpreted IRAQ' that are posted on FB.  I tried listening to this word over and over -- and I began to understand that the presenter was talking about ships of 'ROK' navy, rather than the west Asian country.  He did used this term further around the Baseline-3 presentation.  Also at the end of this statement for Baseline two, he used a garbled term, but which I understood as 'export' and followed by the Malaysian training vessels and then the new Philippine frigate.

As noted below, most of those on the ship depicted are ROK navy classes. Plus -- MY-TRV and Philippine Frigate
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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: 40niner on November 03, 2017, 06:43:59 AM
Here is a pictorial summary of the evolution of the baselines of NS as showcased last year(2016).  As noted, all classes were/will be from SoKor yards. 

(http://i.imgur.com/hURERpE.jpg)

This one below is older, as the FFX-III design wasn't awarded yet.
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Another older presentation.  Take note that this was circa STC (Samsung-Thales) era.  Also has the two-display console on foreground.
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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on November 03, 2017, 10:05:20 PM
Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
SEOUL, KOREA
28 July 2016 - 11:00am

http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales

Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.

When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.

Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).

Hanwha Thales is the nation’s first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics’ defense unit and France’s Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.

Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales’ decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.

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In Thales words

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/countries/asia-pacific/republic-korea

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: LionFlyer on November 04, 2017, 11:40:40 AM
FFX I layout

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The specific version for Malaysia is Baseline 2.2
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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: LionFlyer on November 04, 2017, 12:04:25 PM
Console specs (probably outdated as the one seen recently appears to have an updated design, but a good reference).

http://www.stxengine.co.kr/biz/elect_war02.aspx
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http://www.stxengine.co.kr/biz/elect_war01.aspx
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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on December 26, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
Interestingly, the dissolution of the Samsung-Thales entity ended after the second Samsung-Thales equipped Incheon class frigate was launched.

Could this mean that the intent -- all along -- was for South Korea to develop its own CMS with Thales as the knowledge-transfer source, and that the necessary knowledge had indeed already been transferred?

How much of Tacticos actually lives on in Naval Shield?

From: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/132-republic-of-korea-navy-vessels-ships-and-equipment/rok-navy-frigates-a-destroyers/1184-incheon-class-frigate-ffx-republic-of-korea-rok-navy-gyeonggi-hyundai-heavy-industries-hhi-dsme-south-korea-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html

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Title: Re: Naval Shield - Ultra awarded contract to install MIDS JTRS LINK-16 by ROKN
Post by: mamiyapis on January 19, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
Ultra awarded contract to deliver MDLMS to three destroyers of the Republic of Korea Navy


05/04/17

https://www.ultra-ats.com/latest-news/ultra-awarded-contract-to-deliver-mdlms-to-three-destroyers-of-the-republic-of-korea-navy/


Quote
  Ultra Electronics Advanced Tactical Systems (ATS) was recently awarded a contract to deliver Ultra’s Multi Data Link Management System (MDLMS) to three destroyers for the Republic of Korea Navy. The MDLMS provide the ability to communicate tactical information over a secure, jam-resistant data link using the latest Multifunctional Information Distribution System Joint Tactical Radio System (MIDS JTRS) terminals.

In partnership with Hanwha Systems Co. and supporting the Republic of Korea Defence Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), the modernization of these destroyers will go through full standards conformance testing of its new Link 16 suite. MDLMS will provide the Republic of Korea Navy with enhanced interoperability with United States Navy maritime and airborne platforms via its certified gateway using the same router installed in Ultra’s flagship product; the Air Defense Systems Integrator (ADSI)®.

Upon successful completion of this program, up to six additional destroyers are planned to be upgraded.

Tim Stanley, ATS President, stated:

“I am pleased to be partnering Hanwha Systems and look forward to continuing our work with the Republic of Korea. This contract underscores our continuing growth and expanding relationships with international partners to bring state of the art Command and Control, sensor correlation and certified datalink gateway functionality into the battlespace.”
Title: Re: Naval Shield - Ultra awarded contract to install MIDS JTRS LINK-16 by ROKN
Post by: Invictus on January 20, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
05/04/17

the modernization of these destroyers will go through full standards conformance testing of its new Link 16 suite. MDLMS will provide the Republic of Korea Navy with enhanced interoperability with United States Navy maritime and airborne platforms via its certified gateway using the same router installed in Ultra’s flagship product; the Air Defense Systems Integrator (ADSI)®.

^ Nice find, Sir M. ;)

01/23/2017

Tacticos CMS is also compatible with the TDL 16 requirement of the AFP, while Hanwha’s Naval Shield ICMS compatibility with TDL 16 is still under development phase but could not be operational by 2019

^ I wonder where Ultra Electronics and Hanwa Systems Co. are with the upgrades. What are the chances that the compatibility of Naval Shield ICMS with TDL 16 will be operational sooner than expected?
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: mamiyapis on January 26, 2018, 07:04:36 PM

^ I wonder where Ultra Electronics and Hanwa Systems Co. are with the upgrades. What are the chances that the compatibility of Naval Shield ICMS with TDL 16 will be operational sooner than expected?

The wording doesn't seem really feasible now given that the destroyers being upgraded are KDX Flight I or one of the first supposed recipients of the Naval Shield system... from 1998.
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on February 23, 2018, 07:21:43 AM
Senate hearing on alleged irregularities in the frigate acquisition program | Feb. 19, 2018

https://youtu.be/yLJW6wdfffQ


I’m still a little more than half-way through the video. But finished enough to get through Trillanes’ part. The similarity of the data to certain social media leaks is interesting.

The letter from Thales disavowing involvement in Naval Shield is notable. Now we know where use of the term “Baseline zero” came from. The letter, however, only pointed out at what point Thales and Samsung (now Hanwha) diverged. Naturally, Thales can only comment on the state of the partnership to that point.

However . . . observers who were privy to that document, to include Trillanes, appear to be making the assumption that DAPA, and consequently Samsung (Hanwha), would stop development of Naval Shield at the point of the split. Given that development of a national CMS was identified as a national priority, cessation of development of a CMS — that a tier-one navy is already using for its own survival  — is a stretch.

What remains unclear in all of this, and I’ve been asking this from day one of this fracas, is how much of the Thales-Samsung CMS lives on in Naval Shield?

Did South Korea replicate Thales’ secret sauce fast enough that the Thales-Samsung partnership was deemed redundant? Sadly, DAPA / Hanwha won’t be talking about how good or bad their system is.

Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on February 23, 2018, 07:22:46 AM
"Hanwha still has to develop a Link-16 system..."

Dead giveaway that even the good admiral has been misinformed about TADIL(now just TDL) Link-16. The Koreans need not develop a Link-16 hardware component because it isn't there's to develop, they are not allowed to. Link-16 networks are controlled entirely by the US-based MIDS International Program Office, an office in the Pentagon controlled by the USN and a French officer typically, well... them and the original partner NATO countries.

The program office controls ALL work. Literally ALL WORK.

For example: When the PAF wanted to interface with Link-16, they asked for permission from the office and sent them a requirement for MIDS LVT hardware to be installed into the FA-50s. The IPO worked the request, and got approval from the partner nations on our behalf. They then drafted our requirements into an RFI and got quotes, then picked a contractor for us. The work is stamped a form of high-security FMS, with very specific conditions and restrictions.

The program office chosen contractor then flew to Korea to install the datalink kit into our FA-50s, with some assistance from DAPA and KAI.

Literally at no point in the decision making or hardware process were the Koreans or the Philippines ever involved. None. We were just there to receive the airplanes with the radios and terminals already installed. This is what I've been trying to get everyone to understand.

Naval Shield DOES NOT MATTER, because the Koreans do not have direct access to the TDL hardware... like Canada, Australia, Japan, UAE, Saudi Arabia... the list goes on of richer, more technologically capable countries who are simply at the mercy of the Program Office.

Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on April 02, 2018, 05:06:52 AM
From SND Lorenzana's rebuttal to an open letter published on a national daily.

Is the NSICMS a proven system? The PQ Team, when it post-qualified Hyundai, went aboard ROKS Jeonbuk (FFG 813), one of the most modern frigates of the Republic of Korea Navy commissioned in May 2015, which was the basis for the design of the PN frigates. The PQ Team observed that most subsystems installed onboard the vessel are locally made (indigenous products) by South Korea such as C-Star Missile by LIG Nex1, Main and Auxiliary Engines by STX-MTU and more importantly, the Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System (NSICMS) by Hanwha. This validates that the NSICMS is indeed a proven design.   As a matter of fact, NSICMS has been installed in ROKS Daegu (FFG-818), the newest ROKN ship commissioned into service last 18 February 2018.
Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on April 19, 2018, 11:32:12 AM
DSA 2018: Hanwha defends with Naval Shield CMS
19th April 2018 - 00:30 GMT | by Gordon Arthur in Kuala Lumpur

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digital-battlespace/dsa-2018-hanwha-defends-naval-shield-cms/

Hanwha Systems displayed a mock-up of a triple-display console for its combat management system (CMS), which it generically calls Naval Shield, at the DSA 2018 exhibition in Kuala Lumpur.

The carbon fibre console features multifunction displays, and the first warship class it will be installed on is FFX Batch III frigates for the Republic of Korea Navy (ROKN). Each frigate will have ten such consoles in its combat information centre.

The latest Naval Shield CMS iteration is called Baseline III. The future Baseline IV will incorporate wider functions such as engine propulsion and communications.

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The CMS to be installed on the two frigates for the Philippine Navy (PN) will be of Baseline II configuration, Kyungryung Kim, chief engineer of Hanwha Systems’ surface system team of the naval R&D centre, told Shephard.

He acknowledged the acerbic debate going on in the Philippines about the choice of CMS for the warships to be constructed by Hyundai Heavy Industries.

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Kim said that the Baseline II configuration – which is the most common format in the ROKN and is found on such warships as the FFX Batch II – is the best for the Philippines.

He explained that this is because it will receive more efficient through-life support since it is of the same type fielded by the ROKN. He described it as a ‘sensible’ solution for the Philippines.

The CMS for the Philippines offers sensor and weapon control; threat evaluation, target designation and warfare; real-time tactical information processing and display; radar/TV video distribution and recording; Link 11 data link control; simultaneous tactical and training mode operations; and interface analysis.

Interestingly, Hanwha’s Naval Shield was originally created using principles and knowledge of the Thales TACTICOS system.

The first steel cutting on the initial frigate for the Philippines is scheduled to take place in July, Kim revealed. This frigate should be delivered to the PN before the end of 2019.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on May 13, 2018, 12:37:40 PM
Hanwha Systems unveils naval combat management system in Malaysia
2018/04/15 19:32

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SEOUL, April 16 (Yonhap) -- Hanwha Systems, a South Korean solution provider for defense electronics, said Monday that it has unveiled its naval combat management system at a defense and security exhibition in Malaysia.

The company said it will ramp its sales pitch for its system at the Defence Services Asia Exhibition and Conference that runs from Monday through Thursday at Malaysia International Trade and Exhibition Center in Kuala Lumpur.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on May 08, 2019, 12:43:26 PM
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Post by: adroth on August 03, 2019, 09:55:10 AM
LOOK: Inside the CMS test site for Philippine Navy frigates
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQ INQUIRER.net / 08:05 PM May 25, 2019

GUMI, South Korea — Hanwha Systems, the chosen supplier of the combat management systems (CMS) for the Philippine Navy’s upcoming frigates, opened up its facilities to Philippine media recently.

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Manila-based reporters were given a chance to have a quick look at the integrated combat management systems’ test site for BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), the second missile-capable frigate which formally started its construction this week.

The selection of the CMS for the first purposely-built missile-capable frigates of the Philippine Navy attracted public attention last year.

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Tacticos Thales is compatible with Tactical Data Link 16, a military data exchange network used by the navies of NATO, the United States, and other countries. Hanwha System’s Naval Shield compatibility with TDL 16 is still being developed.

Shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries insisted on choosing the CMS for the Philippine ships, citing a part of the contract. While it first offered Tacticos Thales to the Philippine Navy, it later switched to Naval Shield of Hanwha System.

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Hanwha Systems senior manager of overseas business support team Sam Soo Kim told reporters on Wednesday that their standard comprehensive testing for TDL 16 with the US had been delayed to late 2020 due to change of requirements in transmission by the Korean armed forces.

According to Kim, it’s the US that conducts the final and official tests for the certification of TDL 16 compatibility.

But he said they had developed an exclusive tactical data link system called “Link P” for the two frigates of the Philippine Navy being built by HHI.

This can communicate with other similar tactical data link systems and has a 32-digit key code encryption to ensure data security.

“There is 32 digit key code for encrypting (‘Link P’) and we will give this freedom (to the PN) to change the key code. Normally the password has 10 digits. Hacking of this password takes millions of years. That’s the theory. Thirty-two digits is a very long password. Philippine Navy can randomly put in this system,” Kim said.

Empedrad said the TDL 16 compatibility for the Philippine frigates would require a different procurement activity for the government.

“TDL is not part of the contract. Wala naman nakalagay. It is provided with space but not (supplied) with. Pag binili yun, pwede agad isalpak,” he said.

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Manila-based reporters were given a chance to have a quick look at the integrated combat management systems’ test site for BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151). (Photo by FRANCES MANGOSING / INQUIRER.net)

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The combat management system (CMS) is considered the “brains” of warships. (Photo by FRANCES MANGOSING / INQUIRER.net)

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Inside the integrated combat management systems’ test site for BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151). (Photo by FRANCES MANGOSING / INQUIRER.net)

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Hanwha Systems senior manager of overseas business support team Sam Soo Kim said they had developed an exclusive tactical data link system called “Link P” for the two frigates of the Philippine Navy being built by HHI. This can communicate with other similar tactical data link systems and has a 32-digit key code encryption to ensure data security. (Photo by FRANCES MANGOSING / INQUIRER.net)

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“Normally the password has 10 digits. Hacking of this password takes millions of years. That’s the theory. Thirty-two digits is a very long password,” says Sam Soo Kim, Hanwha Systems senior manager of the overseas business support team. (Photo by FRANCES MANGOSING / INQUIRER.net)

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Published on May 22, 2019
Nilinaw ng Hyundai na hindi sila dumaan sa padrino para makuha ang P18 bilyon frigate contract ng Philippine Navy.

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Title: Re: Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System
Post by: adroth on October 27, 2019, 04:45:24 AM
MADEX 2019 Day 2 - HHI, HCX-19, LPX-II, KDDX, Lacroix, Hanwha
Oct 23, 2019

https://youtu.be/5Y0OmO2UcXU

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