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General Discussion => AFP Modernization & Defense Acquisitions => Topic started by: r3mu511 on September 27, 2016, 10:44:36 AM

Title: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on September 27, 2016, 10:44:36 AM
(posting for reference based on data from the old forum)

PhilStar article dated 02/04/16:

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MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine government has signed a deal with an Israeli company for the purchase of three air surveillance radars worth P2.68 billion...

The Department of National Defense (DND) and Elta System Ltd. signed the contract for the project last Dec. 21, documents seen by The STAR showed.

The letter of credit, a document that assures the supplier that the Philippine government has money in the bank to pay for the radars, was opened in the third week of January.

Under the contract, Elta is supposed to deliver the first of three radars within 22 months after the opening of the letter of credit.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/02/04/1549522/government-signs-p2-b-air-surveillance-radar-deal

Janes article dated 02/08/16:

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The Philippines Department of National Defense (DND) has contracted Elta Systems, a subsidiary of Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), to supply its ELM-2288 air defence and air traffic control radar.

DND spokesman Peter Paul G Galvez confirmed to IHS Jane's on 5 February that the contract is valued at PHP2.68 billion (USD56 million) and features three ELM-2288 radar systems...

http://www.janes.com/article/57802/philippines-to-acquire-elta-systems-radars
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on September 30, 2016, 09:25:10 PM
ADAS Sep 29, 2016: report from Shephard Media on the PAF LR-ADR acquisition (also mentions elm2032 fcr of PAF FA-50s):

https://mags.shephardmedia.com/ADAS/ADAS0216webmagppm/pubData/source/ADAS-02-16-webmag.pdf

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A $56 million contract for three ELM-2288-ER over-the-horizon air surveillance radars was inked with Manila on 21 December but only publicised earlier this year. IAI Elta Systems must deliver the first radar within 22 months of opening a letter of credit, which occurred in the third week of January.
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The FA-50PHs are equipped with Elta Systems ELM-2032 multi-mode airborne fire control radar.

of interest to note is that this report from ADAS 2016 specifically mentions that it is the ER variant (60 row array antenna, ">430 km" detection range on fighter sized target) which is being acquired by the PAF...

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34481-44254-en/Groups_ELTA_EltaNumber_Products-ELM.aspx
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on November 04, 2016, 10:38:38 PM
Posted by user "Oscar Charlie" in forum Facebook extension:

580th ACWW (Aircraft Control and Warning Wing) - unit which will be operating the incoming long-range air defense radars

(https://scontent-sit4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947518_1718899041764175_8677684177778403171_n.jpg?oh=0d710e7fb9f52f289513a1fef95f0ee6&oe=5888BE94)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on December 13, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
official web posting of the re-activation of the 580th ACWW:

http://www.paf.mil.ph/press/2016/580wing.html (http://www.paf.mil.ph/press/2016/580wing.html)

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07 November 2016

After more than a decade since it was downgraded on April 1, 2005, the 580th Aircraft Control and Warning Group has been reactivated to 580th Aircraft Control and Warning Wing (ACWW), signifying a milestone in the PAF history. The formal ceremonies included the symbolic furling and unfurling of Unit Colors, led by the Commanding General, PAF, LTGEN EDGAR R FALLORINA AFP, held at Wallace Air Station, San Fernando City, La Union on November 03, 2016.

and the part I liked most (emphasis mine):

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The occasion was also made more significant with the imminent arrival of a new set of radar equipment, opening up new defense capabilities and weapons systems.
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: mamiyapis on December 14, 2016, 12:17:00 AM
I wonder how compatible the Russians are with Israeli equipment like these ELM 2288 radars?
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on December 14, 2016, 03:33:18 PM
^you mean like getting s400... I haven't read of any info online for using an elm2288 to provide the cueing to the 92N6 "Grave Stone" fire-control/missile-uplink radar of the s400 system...

normally if you buy one fire unit of s400 (consisting of a 92N6 radar and a group of subordinate TELs) this would come with a 96L6 "Cheese Board" search/acquisition radar as well which would provide the cueing for the 92N6 engagement radar...

if instead we bought a whole s400 battery (ie. up to six fire units) this would come with a 91N6 "Big Bird" which can delegate up to six targets each for each of the subordinate 92N6 engagement radars...

I haven't read anything of replacing either the 96L6 or 91N6 search/acquisition radars with an elm2288... since the 92N6 engagement radar communicates with it's "controlling" search/acquisition radar via RF data links I suppose using an elm2288 would mean some sort of developmental item to bridge from the elm2288 tracks to the 92N6 data link...

(all data from: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-S-400-Triumf.html, yes the infamous site of Dr. Kopp, lol)

"Big Bird" search/acquisition radar shown in top row, right side
"Grave Stone" fire-control/missile-uplink engagement radar show in middle row (above the TELs)
"Cheese Board" search/acquisition radar shown in bottom row, left side

(http://www.ausairpower.net/XIMG/S-400-Battery-Composition-Diagram.gif)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on January 13, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
teasers  ;D

(courtesy of "Luis Manchochito" on the Timawa FB extension)

center is at Wallace, outermost ring is approx 450+ km from center:

(https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895029_1276902072352588_6429358157540029869_n.jpg?oh=e11f7972952aa01fb04a614ec2da9e23&oe=58DC0DC1)

if they do place an elm2288-er at Wallace, the old fps-20 there can truly rest in peace now, lol...

fps20 at wallace from 2010 video newscast of "Oplan Farmville":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasYMWrR5GA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasYMWrR5GA)

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o746/r3mu511/fps20%20wallace%20oplanfarmville%20-%20vlcsnap-1915299_zpsciufapuu.jpg)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on January 25, 2017, 11:16:28 PM
another teaser from "Luis 'hi hi hi' Machochito" from timawa fb ;D

"ELM-2288-ER" specified in lower left corner of pic (image they used is of the transportable MR variant though)...

(https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16196062_1287550974621031_5778895404057120128_n.jpg?oh=e175b044678bb83b3e111daccf2b3a87&oe=5908E4AA)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on February 02, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
in the "teaser" pic (https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895029_1276902072352588_6429358157540029869_n.jpg?oh=e11f7972952aa01fb04a614ec2da9e23&oe=58DC0DC1) posted by "Luis Machochito" in the timawa fb extension as shown a few posts above (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=156.msg2962#msg2962), one will note the similarity of the airspace monitor display to the following image from PAF's "ADW Journal (Sep 2013)":

(this image was taken from one of the ADW air defense exercises - ADEX)

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o746/r3mu511/radr%20disp%20rszd%20-%20ADW%20Journal%20p18_zpsqhm4eosh.jpg)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: r3mu511 on April 27, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
more teasers from the FB extension:

EL/M-2106NG transportable 3D short-range (100 km instrumented) radar at Wallace... this is the so-called "gap-filler" radar which was offered as part of the procurement contract for 3 units of the EL/M-2288 long-range radars...

here comes PAF into the modern era of 3D solid-state air-defense radars... about time :-) more good times ahead... (am not counting the "secretive, infamous, mercurial" AR-320 since that used a TWT power amplifier in it's transmitter, hence is not full solid-state)...

(https://scontent.fmnl10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18118520_536418396528822_8810904079743470043_n.jpg?oh=928753b0914be285cc8d82ad10d2fc45&oe=59849945)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: adroth on May 05, 2017, 07:41:00 AM
SIPRI confirmation of selection

(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/adstar.png)

From: http://defense-update.com/20110613_iai-to-unveil-a-new-air-defense-air-surveillance-radar.html

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The new model, designated ELM- 2288, follows Elta’s operationally proven family of air defense/multi-mission radar systems that include the ELM-2080 “Green Pine”, the Anti-Ballistic ARROW Defense System Search, Acquisition and Fire Control Radar and the ELM-2084 Multi-Mission-Radar family. more traditional, rotating system. Utilizing solid state S-band transmitters, the radar provides 3D long-range surveillance. Designed for rapid deployment, the new radar can be transported by air, sea or ground by folding its antenna on its shelter roof.

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(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/adstar1.jpg)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: adroth on January 01, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
From a sanctioned 580th Aircraft Control & Warning Wing video

https://www.facebook.com/Bulldog.434.Cliffhanger/videos/vb.1261858335/10214244002994960/?type=3

(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/elm2288.png)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: girder on December 12, 2018, 01:34:12 AM
A curious development...

Though I doubt anything will come out of it. Interesting note: the Japanese offer lost out a prior bid on Thai radar requirement to Indra Sistemas, S.A. of Spain (https://www.indracompany.com/sites/default/files/3D%20LANZA%20FAMILY%20RADARS.pdf).

Philippines sounded out by Japan on air-defense radar (https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Philippines-sounded-out-by-Japan-on-air-defense-radar)

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TOKYO -- Japan is considering selling air defense radar technology to the Philippines in what would be its first export of defense equipment since ending a nearly 50-year ban in 2014.

Tokyo is sounding out the Philippines about buying an upgraded model of the Mitsubishi Electric-made FPS-3 air defense radar system, which Japan's Air Self-Defense Force has used since 1991 in missile defense and monitoring airspace incursions. Tokyo has already begun offering technical information on the system to Manila.

Japan's thinking goes that upgrading the less-than-cutting-edge radar to meet the Philippines' needs will keep costs down, helping it win orders. The price is expected to be between 1 billion yen and 2 billion yen ($8.87 million and $17.7 million). Manila has also approached the U.S. and Israel on the matter, according to a source connected to the Japanese government, and may decide as early as the start of next year.

For reference, the PAF's current & planned future radar sites:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VSR2w4u_S3o/VQ-rJL4UPXI/AAAAAAAACrc/4Ve633nzypc/s1600/Radar%2BSites.jpg)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: Ayoshi on December 14, 2018, 01:50:07 AM
http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=232.0

Japan pursues additional exports to the Philippines | Janes (https://www.janes.com/article/85187/japan-pursues-additional-exports-to-the-philippines) - 13 December 2018
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The export effort is largely focused on opportunities for sales of maritime security equipment including the J/FPS-3 air defence radar produced by the Mitsubishi Electric Corporation.

Since Japan lifted its ban on international military sales in 2014, it has exported to the Philippines equipment including thousands of spare parts for Bell UH-1H helicopters, five Beechcraft TC-90 King Air trainer aircraft to the Philippine Navy, and 10 multirole response vessels to the Philippine Coast Guard.
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: Buster1123 on March 19, 2019, 02:26:30 PM
Philippines receives final Israeli air surveillance radars

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digital-battlespace/philippines-receives-final-israeli-air-surveillanc/ (https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digital-battlespace/philippines-receives-final-israeli-air-surveillanc/)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: adroth on July 06, 2019, 04:12:09 PM
PH Air Force to be capable of integrated defense soon
By Priam Nepomuceno  July 4, 2019, 1:07 pm

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1074068?fbclid=IwAR0WFQ6sSLyloLZT1uC90t5BEN8JFzU-FHVkUhMUmYptZwcs7MaArs4wqao

MANILA -- Once the Philippine Air Force (PAF) acquires brand-new multi-role fighters, the service will be capable of fielding an Integrated Air Defense System that will protect the country from aerial threats.

"The acquisition of multi-role fighters would soon complete the Integrated Air Defense System of the entire country, which is composed of sensors -- the radars, ground defense, and the interceptors, which will be our multi-role fighters," PAF commander, Lt. Gen. Rozzano Briguez, said in his speech at the Air Force's 72nd founding anniversary on Tuesday.

In support of this mission, Briguez said the Air Force has recently activated its FA-50 simulator facility at the 5th Fighter Wing, Basa Air Base, Floridablanca, Pampanga that will be used by the Air Defense Command in training a new generation of pilots.

"We have also installed our second radar at the Gozar Air Station in Lubang Island, Mindoro and we are continuously working on the construction of the radar basing support system for the third radar at Mount Salacot, Palawan," he added.

Briguez added that Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana has recently approved the plan to acquire the so-called "ground-based air defense system" that will be used in protecting radar bases and other important government facilities from internal and external threats.

The PAF Strategic Basing Plan intends to develop such areas as Lal-lo, Cagayan; Guiuan, Samar; Mati, Davao Oriental; Hill 900 in Zamboanga; and Balabac Island, Palawan to achieve effective and efficient air operations, he said.

The air force chief added that they will soon finalize their Integrated Command and Control, Communications and Computer Systems that will further enhance their capability to conduct air operations.

"Through this, we shall achieve a robust, high performance, fully interoperable and integrated communications technology infrastructure that will provide all elements of the DND-AFP (Department of National Defense - Armed Forces of the Philippines) information requirement and support a common operational picture," he added.

Briguez also took the opportunity to thank President Rodrigo R. Duterte for his "colossal and unprecendented support to the AFP," which includes the ongoing modernization program; significant salary increase for all soldiers, including the hazard duty pay of front line troops in Sulu; and the additional issued firearms.

These initiatives by the President and Commander-in-Chief have made the troops more secure, confident, and focused in the conduct of operations, he added.

"We also highly appreciate the support of our foreign Air Force counterparts, such as Japan, especially for the UH-1H spare parts they have given us; our ASEAN partners, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam; and also South Korea, China, the United States, Russia, Australia, and other countries that we have been working closely with," Briguez said. (PNA)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: girder on October 14, 2020, 09:57:34 PM
Japan Strikes First Arms Export Deal — Can Tokyo Find More Buyers For Its Pricey Weapons? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/09/11/japan-strikes-first-arms-export-deal-can-tokyo-find-more-buyers-for-its-pricy-weapons/#68aa8b192a5e)
Sep 11, 2020

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In August, Japan signed a government-government deal to export advanced air surveillance radars to the Philippines. This $103.5 million contract is considered to be modern Japan’s first export of a complete defense product—and that a full six years after the Japanese government lifted restrictions on arms sales abroad.

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The radars reportedly include three fixed J/FPS-3ME Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) systems and one mobile J/TPS-P14ME. Both are optimized for medium-to-high altitude aerial surveillance and are built by Mitsubishi Electric Corporation (MELCO).

AESA systems are the gold-standard for military radars due to their jamming resistance, and the J/FPS-3 comprises both an L-Band surveillance system with a maximum range of 400 miles, and a more precise S-Band radar that scan out to 93 miles. Meanwhile, the J/TPS-P14 is based around an S-Band phased-array radar with air surveillance range of 250 miles.

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Furthermore, the Japanese government is reportedly pursuing a radar-coverage sharing agreement with the Philippines due to Japanese interest in monitoring Chinese military activity in the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Batanes Islands, which one of the new fixed radars would be surveilling. In exchange, the Philippines would receive radar data from Japanese radars in Okinawa.

Japan to consider sharing air defense radar information with Philippines in order to track Chinese aircraft (http://alert5.com/2020/07/13/japan-to-consider-sharing-air-defense-radar-information-with-philippines-in-order-to-track-chinese-aircraft/)
July 13, 2020

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News reports from Japan says Tokyo is mulling over a plan to share air defense radar information with the Philippines in order to better track Chinese aircraft heading out to the Pacific Ocean.

Currently, Japan is able to track Chinese aircraft over the Miyako Straits but if any of those aircraft enters the Pacific via Bashi Channel, they cannot be track reliably due to the distance involved.

The plan is to share the information from Japanese radars with the Philippines while Manila will provide information collected by three Mitsubishi Electric J/FPS-3 and one J/TPS-P14 radars that Philippines is buying.

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With the information provided by Philippines, Japan can get a better air picture of Chinese aircraft movements south of Taiwan and take appropriate measures much earlier.

Additional links:
JTPS-P14 @ radartutorial.eu (https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte068.en.html)
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: girder on October 15, 2020, 07:23:24 PM
Japanese radar system to strengthen WPS monitoring: AFP (https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1118361)
October 13, 2020

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MANILA – The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) would install one of the radar systems that would be delivered from Japan at the closed Matinloc gas platform located off Malampaya, Palawan near the West Philippine Sea.

"You see, we (decided that) the Matinloc platform (will) be assigned one of the radars coming from Japan to beef up our monitoring capability in the West Philippine Sea," AFP chief-of-staff, Gen. Gilbert Gapay said in an online press conference with the Foreign Correspondents Association of the Philippines (FOCAP) Tuesday.

Gapay said these radar systems from Japan would be used to beef up the country's maritime domain awareness capability.

"Aside from radars, we are also looking at Japan as a source of (in) developing our cyber (capabilities). This is one aspect we are focusing on now and I think we can partner with Japan in this area, cyber-defense and security which is also one of their thrusts of the Japan Self Defense Force," he said.

Gapay added that the AFP is also interested in beefing up its unmanned aerial systems capability with Japanese assistance.
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: eagle from davao on November 25, 2020, 11:07:32 AM
This is not directly related to radar but it will complement  radar ability to see and identify with help of UAV. A firm in US able to develop and tested surveillance pod for UAV( predator type). It can conduct SIGINT operations. PAF just receive UAV from Israel, this might help PAF conduct SIGINT around EZZ and as well counter insurgency.

This is the link;

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htecm/20201124.aspx
Title: Re: PAF Long-Range Air Defense Radars
Post by: girder on November 27, 2020, 04:10:33 PM
^Elbit Systems already has ELINT/EW/COMINT/COMJAM payloads that can be integrated on to their Hermes 900 and 450 drones.

Also, the appropriate threads for that topic: